Dave , I deleted the old button and regenerated a new one from paypal....same results. I forwarded the file for the freeformslabs page to a mutual friend of ours from the threads and he's lookin' it over....I have a feeling he'll nip it in the bud but I know he's extremely busy and it might be some time before getting back to me. 6 hr timezone difference and whatever work he's got lying in front of him.....doesn't make me a priority,and I shouldn't be either! I'm grateful he even asked I send it...but I'll keep taking stabs at it until we've exhausted all efforts...I still have not tried to edit that code you found,you know, the extra </form> or whatever the heck it was....don't know if I should tinker with it or not til I hear back from the other side of the pond...... Thanks again for hangin' in there with me....I'll check back often..... anyone else with input,please share it. I'm still in need of a fix. Mark

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