i have a great alternative to a flash site. i bought motion artist 3.0 it lets you create pretty good flash movies complete with functioning links.i use the bv web builder and play my swf clips with bv as flash movies. it gives you the functionality of of flash site witout all of the programming. its good for flash type sites and banners. the only drawback of thye soft My site is being reconstructed because i have fell in love with the whole flash hybrid site.but as soon as i put it back up i will give you a link.