Thread: Blue Voda Graphics Question!

Hello my Website is www.vullcanairbrush.com ,
My problem is related to the b.voda graphics.

In my pages are frames made out of from the object tools for example...
I click on objects...I choose rectangle...then I choose transparent and then I use frame No.1 ( thickness ) ...OK.

If you look at my pages you will see that bottom frames in some of them are regular thickness No.1 as they should be and some of the frames bottoms are made of thicker lines ( not as it should be as the thickness is set at size No 1. )
I try to reload and then the next page displays frame without a bottom at all...I reload the page that has a damaged bottomless frame and then go back to the old page and there a thick line on the bottom appears again.

This looks tacky to me and unstable , please help.
Sinisa

Hi, I assume you mean shapes & not objects? Had a look in IE & FF, & all looks fine on my machine. I am assuming you are talking about the grey boxes out lines around your menu areas?

That is right Chris I mean shapes but not outlines around menu bars but outlines around the text body...If you go to http://www.vullcanairbrush.com/mc-1a.html ...scroll all the way at the bottom of the page just above the menu bar the frames bottom outline is thicker than lines on left and right hand, now if you got to
http://www.vullcanairbrush.com/mc-1a_specs.html you will notice that the bottom of the frame looks the same all the way around...This repeats many times of course there are 120+ pages I cannot expect you to look all of them
Can you help make frames look the same on all the pages?
regards
Sinisa

Hi, strange one. Not sure what is making this happen. Must be something to do with the pages as when you view the image http://www.vullcanairbrush.com/bv03412.gif on its own, it is fine. Would actually be a nice effect if you could duplicate it. Its like its making this bottom edge 2px in size & the rest 1px.

The only area I can say to have a look at. Is when you look at http://www.vullcanairbrush.com/mc-1a.html the image is long & about twice the size of the one on this page http://www.vullcanairbrush.com/mc-1a_specs.html Yet the images share the same URL http://www.vullcanairbrush.com/bv03412.gif
With this in mind, I believe there has been some posts on this. What you may of done is either cloned or copied a page & adjusted the image/shape after copying. Doing this may affect the image looks. I believe if you want to clone or copy a page, you aren’t meant to change the elements size (IE: this image/shape) what I get the impression you should do is make 3/4/5 pages up at different sizes as the basic templates that you could use for all of your sites pages. These may all be the same width, but have different lengths. Then when you make up a new page, you copy or clone one of these that you have made up, & add items but not change them. If you do! i believe you should delete the item & replace with a new one.
Personally! If you are thinking of a site with many pages? I would seriously look at using Navaldesigns of style to putting your site together. It will be a lot quicker in the long run.
If you need help? Just pop a post back here. Link to PHP style of pages.
Your sites style of lay out would make this quite easy to do.

Thank you Chris,
You are right I cloned many pages...I simply erased the old images and made new ones and it worked perfectly.
Thank you for saving the day , I will look into the PHP style of pages as that would be allot easier then going trough each page every time I make an update,
Best regards and thank you again
Sinisa

Hey Chris it's Sinisa again ,
wanted to ask you if you know a good script ( with instructions for installation ) for site search box..and that I mean search related topics in my own web pages not one of those Google site search boxes...
Last time I was directed to some link for me to find the script...Needles to say I have no clue what is good or what exactly am I looking for...any thoughts
Sinisa
P.S Am I allowed to ask questions not related to the subject or Am I breaking some rules?
Sinisa

Hi Sinisa, glad it solved the problem. Beth! One of the forums admin use’s http://www.freefind.com/ as a site search. It seems to be fine with the least amount of adds showing that I have seen. You will see what I mean if you have a quick look at her site. http://www.achildspalace.com/ & try the find/search facility. But there won’t be many (if any) free ones out there without some ads on them.

Good luck with the site, its looking very neat and tidy. Oh! One small thing, it looks like your pages need centering & I think this is creating the problem http://www.vullcanairbrush.com/1119a_02.gif I assume you have it in a table & it might be this that is making/pushing the page a bit wide. Cheers.

Thanks for the reply I will then just purchase the search box I do not want anybodies junk...I do think this is something blue voda should have as a must ...Yahoo web builder has it with in the web builder no script neccessery... I do not understand why blue voda does not have one...you would have less work for everyone...besides we paid for the service...

Thanks for the compliment...wanted to ask if I centered the site wont that make my body text and the menu bars that are on the left be placed in the center of the page?
I do not want that I want it to look the way it is ..but what exactly is the problem with http://www.vullcanairbrush.com/1119a_02.gif ? pushing how...?
I do not understand? I made all the pages that do not have a scroll be the same display size ...same with the pages that have a scroll bar...
Sinisa

Hi, just another tip regarding those cloned pages. Even if you use Naval's php method, there might be instances where you want to clone a specific page or even copy items from one page to another. It's OK to do that, but as Chris has explained, it can cause some problems. Instead of deleting these items and recreating them over, just do this:
1. Select all the items that were copied from another page (click one, then while holding the Shift key, click the other items as well).
2. Now press Ctrl+X to cut all selected items (or use Edit >> Cut).
3. Now open the Edit menu and select the Paste command (do not use any other paste options). This will paste your items in the exact spot where it were on the other page where they were copied from and you will not have any format problems with them or the original items).

Hi, I have copied you page in a screen shot to show you what I mean. Its at the bottom of this page. http://www.collectors-info.com/testing/spage.html
I can see you might want to use the full page width & not like my top of the page sample. But the lower image show what I see with a lot of side scroll.
But let others confer this 1st just in case it my browser playing up.

Thank you both actually as far as I know and I am pretty sure there is no pages with side scroll...( unless you have seen one ) Thank you for the suggestion but I have worked on all possible angles and it took me a while to decide to have this layout ...I did it because it seems fuller in the other instance it looks a bit chopped away... thank you for the suggestion I really appreciate it...
Regards
Sinisa

Hi, no problem & good luck. It would be interesting to see if anyone else gets the s/w/scroll on there machines? Might have to update my browser.

Sorry ... it seems I misunderstood your point ...I do not want users to have a side scroll at all and I thought I avoided that ..obviously I was wrong is there a way to correct this and display the whole page width without side scroll..that was my only concern earlier
thanks again
Sinisa

Hi Sinisa, might be worth letting someone else confer that they are getting the same side scroll as well & its not my machine, as its strange you are not getting any. I even get it on your entry/home page. But on this page everything is to the right of the page, with a white gap to the left.
Just on another note, I was looking at the s/code on your entry page & there are far to many keywords. 20 max is about the norm or even less. All these key words must be also on your page. Otherwise you may find the SE’s just ignoring you.

Will see if others can confer the sideways scroll.

Not shouting or being rude! Just trying to get this noticed for a test. lol



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Chris, I have a 1280 x 800 screen and find no sideway scrolling, but anything less than this I'm sure will have sideways scrollong.

Sinisa, without messing up your layout of the pages, I think you must move your copyright text in the header area to within the 1000 limit as this is causing the sideways scrolling (I think...). Do not let any text or items go outside this area of 1000 wide. Will be good idea to set the page margins at 1000.

Hi, I have done a little search on what seems to be the best screen resolution to set at for web browsing. 1024 X 768 (this is what my one is set at) seems to be the best from the info I can find on nearly all sites. This & the old 600x800 for small monitors is still very common used for web browsing.
I set my one to toms 1280 x 800 & everything looked fine on your site, but didn’t like browsing the rest of the web with it on my monitor.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Display_resolution
http://www.useit.com/alertbox/screen_resolution.html
http://www.accessibility101.org.uk/tips/25.htm
http://brainstormsandraves.com/archi.../01/usability/

I have my screen set to 1280 X 1024 and at max screen there is no sideways scroll. However, I must say, that when I view pages, I don't have ususally have it set to maximize, as I like to see other items I may have open. Just a personal thing for me. But when I restore down there is major sideways scroll even if I stretch it right or left. Only if I max my screen do I get rid of the sideways scroll.

Chris, I just forgot to mention; those settings in post 15 above is my default setting on my wide screen desktop, so it will not look great on your desktop. Also, I have tested it with the desktop and with the same setting as what Dream Lady has and there is no side scrolling, but the horizontal scrollbar is visible.

I'm sure it is that header image and copyright text causing the sideways scrolling. I'm not sure, but it looks like she has dragged that image to fit accross the entire screen. Is their a way to make that header image fluent with some coding? Sinisa wants that image to be displayed accross the entire width of the screen, but if it can auto adjust for any type of screen resolution, it may solve the problem.

Chris, I know you are full of ideas, so do you have any like this? Or anyone else on this forum?

Hi, I think most of the articles for web browsing relate to the majority of viewers. I set my viewing up for what the majority will see when making any pages.
On the auto length & width adjustments “fluidity/Liquid pages” there is this type of page LINK, but doing the whole site this way wouldn’t be that easy with BV.

Thanks Chris, I'm aware of the link you gave, but that is for making liquid pages, but I was actually wondering if that could not be possible with just an image (not the page).

Thank you everyone it would be great if the imiges could adjust themselves but as chris said it would be pain to rework everything and I have to add about 60 morree pages I will never finish this..

What you think would be optimum for what I want ( basically I want the gif to be across the screen as it makes ( in my opinion ) a fuller looking page )
Say 1024 x 768 to accommodate majority of users?
Ragards

Now I feel like an idiot... In post 18 I said it was my default settings on my desktop. Desktop??? I meant Laptop (spelling blunder when you are in a hurry).... No wonder I did not understand your comment on that Chris.

Sinisa, if I may make a suggestion, than I would make that image as wide as the page. If you make your page 1000 than it would look super.

Might have somthing here? You can have a solid bar across the top of the page in all resolutions, but it would be done with a by a bit of stolen BV code. Lol
Place the code below in your page HTML properties under “Between head tag” area. Then preview. It should come out as a background image repeating horizontally.
Then pace your http://www.vullcanairbrush.com/1119_01.png image in the top corner of the BV page. It seems ok in FF & IE, but have a test 1st.
Good luck.

HTML Code:

<style type="text/css">
<!--
body {background-image: url(http://www.vullcanairbrush.com/1119a_02.gif); background-repeat:repeat-x;;background-position:left top;}
/* Setting the body tag with a background-image attribute
(repeat is the default setting) */
-->
</style>

Wow, Chris. I knew you would come up with the code. It works perfectly and should be perfect for Sinisa's site.

Thank you Chris very much...it works great with http://www.vullcanairbrush.com/airbrushes.html but where am I wrong with http://www.vullcanairbrush.com/aboutus.html
it's not working,
Best regards

Sorry ...It must have been a glitch...it works perfect
Thank you Very Very much....I am so happy about this!!!
Best regards to both Chris and Tom vR

P.S What can we do about search engine box
Does anyone know if we can have inspire blue voda to obtain a customizable search box in next couple of weeks ( make a script or get an open source script and integrate it in the blue voda web builder we could all benefit )

Hi, it would be nice if this was part of BV. Its ironic that the Form maker pro & Vote pro that BV supply free of charge are by (I think) the same company.
http://www.site-search-pro.com/

Good luck.

Thanks Chris , I will try it out they have a return policy,
Best regards and thank you ever so much again , that script is a killer
Sinisa

Hello Chris,
Could you advise me on something ,
I have been using the script ( fitting the image across the top to avoid the scroll bar ) you gave me very successfully on all my pages except on the index page on which I am working right now.
Am I doing something I should not be...The background image is
not responding to the command to stretch across the top? Please help,
Regards
Sinisa

Hi, i may have this wrong, but it seem the code is asking/calling for an image that is not there? This one- http://www.vullcanairbrush.com/035a.jpeg is it the right URL? & is the image on your sever?

Yes the www.vullcanairbrush.com is the right domain name , Now the image was downloaded along with the rest of the images that are on the screen and the image 035a.jpeg is along with the rest of them on the screen it's just not expanding...
Also Index page does not seem to be functioning properly,
If I place a top menu bar in a particular spot on the screen, in the preview it will not show it at exactly same spot .
I have to actually place it on a different spot on the screen and then it will show on the right spot.
Really weird and somewhat bothersome.
Do you think everything is OK with the Index Page?
Maybe the problem is within the structure of the index?
Sinisa

the url is right www.vullcanairbrush.com and the image is on the screen with the rest of the images it is just not responding to the command,
also the index page is not working exactly right
If I place an image on the screen in the preview it will show it slightly moved so I actualy have to place an image in the wrong spot for it to show in the right spot.
Is everything OK with structure of the index page?Maybe you could reload the it or something ( I don't know how that works just guessing, trying to help )
Thanks
Sinisa

Ah! try
http://www.vullcanairbrush.com/035a.jpg
for the image instead of
http://www.vullcanairbrush.com/035a.jpeg

I tried it and works great.Typographical error! Dang...
Thank you!
Sinisa

No Problem. Lost count of the times i have done it. LOL