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    Good evening.

    Before when I used the older version of BlueVoda, the photos that I uploaded were all next to eachother without any gaps or anything.

    Now that I use the latest version that just came out, the photo albums appear to have "2" in spacing horizontally as a default. Even though there are no spacing in the BlueVoda program, it appears on my website even though I have the spacing and padding settings to "0"

    I also tried to read through the HTML of the entire page, and it sais "0" on everything assosiated with spacing there also.

    Why is this happening? There shouldn't be any spacing, but there is anyway.

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    Here's some of the pages that this problem occures in.

    http://www.darksidesithlord.com/my-c.../stampbug.html
    http://www.darksidesithlord.com/my-c...id-caller.html

    All the photos were close to eachother before, but now they all have a horizontal spacing even though everything is set to "0". I need to get them back together.

    If anyone knows how to fix this, please let me know fast.

    Thanks.

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    Default Re: Photo spacing 2 as default?

    Hi, all showing up with no gap at my end in FF & IE. ??
    Would be good to reduce your image sizes as the pages are taking about 30 secs to load.

    Good luck.

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    Default Re: Photo spacing 2 as default?

    Hmm, strange. There's gaps between all photos here.
    All the photos are compressed from over 1.5mb to about 90kb, so nothing more to do about that. You must use dial-up or something then, I feel for you.

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    Default Re: Photo spacing 2 as default?

    Hi,

    I am on broadband and the wait to download the index page is what you created...you named your images with spaces in the names instead of underscores for the spaces.

    Your page takes too long to load for broadband, dsl, whatever...the point is that your customers are on the dinosaur...don't you want their money, too?

    I promise you that if you rename your images without spaces that you will have no more "obvious" editing to do with those images. Just remember to republish pages with new image names.

    Alot of the loading time is the browser trying to figure out what it's going to do with the file/image/page names that have spaces in the names. I am not good with refering you to a post in forum, but replacing the badly-named images with good images...talking about renaming files... is here somehere in this forum.

    http://www.darksidesithlord.com/my-c...id-caller.html this link takes over a minute to load.

    Just here trying to help. :)
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    I would also suggest using a slightly...ever so slightly...lighter color on the links for navigation. Good Luck!
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    Default Re: Photo spacing 2 as default?

    I know space in page names can be bad and such, but all photos with space in them get automatically renamed from "Picture - 001" to "picture%20-%20001", so there's not really any space there.

    All the photos are compressed and what not, and the link you provided here pops up in a second or two, so perhaps your web might be slow.

    I still don't see what the space has to do with the gaps though. My files have always had space in them that will become %20, but there were no gaps between the photos before when I used the older BV program.

    Karen - Entered pages are true red, links are true purple and true blue, so no can do there, sorry. That's just the way I want them. They appear bright enough here.

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    Default Re: Photo spacing 2 as default?

    I made a test page now containing 8 photos with spaceless names, the gaps were there, upload was fast.

    I believe there must be an error with the "gallery" of the new BlueVoda program since there are still gaps when gaps are set to "0"

    Hopefully it will be fixed soon, I thank them for the new guestbook, it really saved my site from spam.

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    Default Re: Photo spacing 2 as default?

    Your photos on the album 01 page range from 100 - 300+ kb's.
    Way too large as you have several on a page.
    I see no spacing..between...pix....
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    Default Re: Photo spacing 2 as default?

    OK, so you may not have named the images with spaces but something has...
    http://www.darksidesithlord.com/my-p...%20-%20002.jpg has spaces in the name.
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    Karen - Entered pages are true red, links are true purple and true blue, so no can do there, sorry. That's just the way I want them. They appear bright enough here
    Sorry, but I was referring to the navigation buttons and they are brown, yellow, green, etc. ...still haven't found the true red, true purple, and true blue that you are talking about. The ones I was referring to are the navigational links on your index page.

    OK, so you may not have named the images with spaces but something has...
    http://www.darksidesithlord.com/my-p...%20-%20002.jpg has spaces in the name.
    Whether or not you put spaces in the names of the images, is not the issue...there are spaces...the browser is showing "%20" for each space.

    It is not my intention to argue the point...my intention is to find out why ---if you did not put spaces in image names --- there are spaces. :)
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    Default Re: Photo spacing 2 as default?

    Strange?
    I have your pages at...........
    5510144kb (5.5meg) for http://www.darksidesithlord.com/my-c...id-caller.html
    4623kb (4.5meg) for http://www.darksidesithlord.com/my-c...lity-belt.html
    Even larger is the belt page at over 8 meg.

    Good luck.

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    Those photos are old and uncompressed. See the photo names "Tatooine Inhabitant - Utility Belt - 001" - - The costume is now named Liam Starkiller. Photos will be replaced soon with a new tan even.

    All image files have spaces in them, and so friggidy what? That's not what this topic is about. I need to know how to fix those damn gaps, and everyone pops in here to yap about how slow the damn site is - I'm working on it! Also I never said that I didn't have space in my photo names, I said every photo DOES have space in their names, but spaces are converted to %20 anyway, so I don't really see the problem.

    The navigation buttons - - These are meant to glow once you get your mouse cursor over them, and are meant to be dark when not being felt up by a cursor. So be it. The site is called The Eternal Darkness.

    Yeah the photo albums... SEE!! Uploaded only with the old BV, so no gaps. Everything else uploaded with the new BV, friggin gaps everywhere between the photos! And...bleh, perhaps you would prefer the photos to have the original size of 2.5MB? Or perhaps more photos in a page? ...There are 50 compressed photos in every album, I really don't see what the problem is then.

    "Cool, we're at 2008! We have newer options than a modem now! Far out!"

    And it's not about spaces or "look how slow and big it is", I just need to know why those damn gaps are there. Look a the photos in "My Photos" - Uploaded with old BV, no gaps - Costume pages, photos uploaded with new BV, horizontal gaps between all photos - Damn.

    What to be done about it?

    Thanks.

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    Default Re: Photo spacing 2 as default?

    Thank you for replying. I was very curious about the spaces. I am sorry to have soured your mood. I have not yet seen the gaps that you are referring to. The only gaps I see are the ones that separate each row horizontally and they are more like a line or border. I wish I could help you. :)
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    Default Re: Photo spacing 2 as default?

    That be OK, one appologizes. And it's not you, it's everything else around me. It appears I may be turning more evil...

    The gaps I was referring to were infact the gaps that you are referring to, horizontally separating each row.

    This is the problem that I need to be fixed, because there are no borders set for the photo albums at all, yet horizontal borders appear on my website once photos are uploaded.

    Hopefully someone who works with BlueVoda knows what the problem is.

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    I think you might find that members were trying help by eliminating other problems 1st & not having to wait around for pages to load. Your pages will seem fast at your end as they will already be in your machines cache & will appear instantly.
    It seems strange that others & myself cant see this problem you are having with the gallery, so can only assume its your machine or browser. Might be an ilea to post these details.

    Good luck.

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    Everyone else I've asked told me that were were horizontal spaces between the photos, but I can look at it from the other computer upstairs, most likely the same problem occurs there also. Strange that you can not see it.

    PhotoPhoto
    Space
    PhotoPhoto
    Space
    PhotoPhoto

    And so on... here - http://www.darksidesithlord.com/my-c.../stampbug.html

    I know about the cache, its pretty neat stuff, but still pages that I've never been into are not a problem at all for downloading. Photos have been compressed and there are only up to 50 photos in every page to make it at least some better. Having less photos would result in way too many albums, and that would be very annoying. If this doesn't even help, I believe your internet might be slow.

    When you're in a photo album anyway, you're really in there to look at photos, not to look up and down the page to wait for all the photos to come up before you start looking at photos from the top to bottom when you might as well have looked at the top photos and down while the site is loading.

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    Lines are there on the other computer also, yet another person I know said there are spaces there.

    A quick lesson for you who don't even get the idea - -

    Vertical ||||||||||||||||||||||||||
    Horizontal ____________________

    HoRiZoNtAl LINES BEtWEEEEEEN PhOtOs

    And I need this fixed before I can upload any more photos.

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    I need that to go away, that's all I'm trying to do. One appologizes for slow photo uploading through slow internet, but one is trying to compress and rename all photos to make the site better.

    Calling people who works with BlueVoda - Please fix this gap.

    Thanks.

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    Default Re: Photo spacing 2 as default?

    I'll try to help.
    Are all images the same exact physical dimensions?
    What thumbnail size have you chosen?
    What cell padding and cell spacing are you using?
    Have you "checked" Maintain Aspect Ratio?
    I'll be away from the computer for 3-4 hours.
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    Default Re: Photo spacing 2 as default?

    All images are the same - 1024X768
    Thumbnails - 500X375
    Cell padding - 0
    Cell spacing - 0
    Aspect ratio maintained

    That's what's so strange about it, everything is just the same as when I uploaded photos through the old BV, and there are no padding or spacing set in BV what so ever, but still a horizontal space appears between every photo on the page once it has been uploaded.

    I have tried just about everything and I don't believe there is anything to do about it, it's just an error with the new version of BV. The website never had these gaps before when I uploaded photos through the old BV.

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    Default Re: Photo spacing 2 as default?

    Have you looked at the Horizontal/Vertical dropdowns?
    What do you have your page width set to?
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    Default Re: Photo spacing 2 as default?

    Horizontally - Center
    Vertically - Top
    Page width - 1000

    I tried to make the page wider along with widening the gallery in case that had something to do with it, and also made the gallery smaller with different image resolutions - So far the space has appeared in every attempt.

    The space appears to become a part of the bottom of each photo once uploaded with the new BV program and is most likely an error that has nothing to do with any settings.

    If I had accidentally set the padding to 2, I would also have seen it in BV, but in BV the page appears just fine with no space at all, but when uploaded, the spaces are there.

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    I can confirm the difference between BV9 & BV10 as I have both systems on my computer. I went thru all of the permutations that I could think of and could not delete the horizontal spaces in BV10.
    BV9 worked and had no horizontal space.
    Let me ask this question, "Why not have a space all around each picture?"

    I have no solution to the problem.

    In my tests I used existing photos from the website. When previewed the photos would not appear until I renamed them without spaces or %20 in the name.
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    Sith....

    Now that Terry confirmed the "fact" with no apparent resolution available (which thus classifies it as a "bug"), you should make a post in this thread ( http://www.vodahost.com/vodatalk/new...v-10-12-a.html ) with a link back to this thread so the Team can work on it --- they will not likely traipse thru the forums looking for stray bugs.....
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    Default Re: Photo spacing 2 as default?

    Thanks for the tip, I will do that now then. Hopefully it will be fixed.

    And about adding another vertical spacing to go with the horizontal one, I was thinking that this might be the only way to make it look OK, but it would all mess up my measuring system stuff on my site..and such things, so I'd prefer it if it could be fixed instead since it is now classified as a bug.

    EDIT - ****, that topic appears to be locked. What else can one do then?

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    Well, seems we're back to the old cliche of "if you want something done right, you have to do it yourself!"
    Since so many others create new threads for so many unfounded reasons, why should you feel constrained when such a relevant reason and mutually progressive motivation presents itself???

    Were it me, I would title a new thread in the NEWS forum "BV 10.12 Bugs, continued" and explain your issue, provide a link back here, and sit back and watch the resultant clamor! LOL!

    Might change a perspective or two on the presumptive manner in which threads are handled, you think?


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    One will try that then, thanks.

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    Topic was deleted. Figures...
    One will try uploading again to see if they've fixed it, but probably they havn't

    EDIT - Ofcourse it didn't work. That's just typical, as soon as a new version comes out, there's a bug in it so that I can't upload photos anymore until they make an even newer version where this is fixed. So I'm probably screwed for a year or so.

    Does anyone have any idea how to fix this? I can't upload the photos through the old BV since I need the captcha setting for the guestbook in some of the photo pages.

    Any help here would be hot.

    Thanks.

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    Default Re: Photo spacing 2 as default?

    BUMP HUMP DUMP FOREST GUMP

    Anyone at BlueVoda working on this problem?

    Hmm, fudge.

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