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    Red face Any Better Now?

    Okay, I have taken into consideration what's been said and tried to reformat. Before I go any further, is this new one better or worse?

    Thanks for your input!

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    Default Re: Any Better Now?

    oooooookkkkkk,

    How you doing man, I guess it took you a while change that huh? Anyway.

    1 - in you Blue Voda website builder, right click anywhere in the page (without selecting anything) go to page properties, in the first tag there a box in the bottom name is center in the page, check that to get a page in the center of the browser.

    2 - The average size of the normal web page is 800x600 pixel, select your butterfly image and centre it verticaly in between 300 to 350 pixel, but remove it from the page background first and insert it as an image in your page.

    3 - Your pages are still untitled, in page properties look at the field in the top there is untitled, give it a name (that can be anything you want) because it shows on the top of the browser while opening the page.

    4 - the links you have in the home page are toooooooo small, it took me 6 seconds to find them which normaly should be instantly.

    5 - the NvaBar you have in the other pages, don't you think still need to be changed? because they have that white in the corners which break the design.

    That's what I have for now, if you didn't understand what's above because maybe (and I'm sorry) I didn't explain very well, just let me know.

    But still like the content of your website
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    Default Re: Any Better Now?

    You have made a BIG improvements. Keep working, listening and following suggestions. Don't give up, it is easy, I know. Your site is meant to help people and it is a good bet that it will, so you have the obligation to keep on keeping on. I like what your site will become,I believe it.
    The above is great feedback.

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    Quote Originally Posted by choco777
    You have made a BIG improvements. Keep working, listening and following suggestions. Don't give up, it is easy, I know. Your site is meant to help people and it is a good bet that it will, so you have the obligation to keep on keeping on. I like what your site will become,I believe it.
    The above is great feedback.
    Thanks for the compliment, that's right that the content of his web site is great, super, not yet perfect until he get the final retouches, it's not that difficult as you said, I will be waiting for the next improvements.
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    Things are looking much better. Your page with the yellow and orange (it did not have a titie) had the nav buttons down the middle of the page, they did not work. I am not sure if you are still working on them. Also on the same page the large text at the top is on top of the smaller text. I don't think you meant to do that. I view on a ***** powerbook using firefox. I know that at times it is hard to get things to line up. I have found that if I put things in a table without borders I can get them to line up on most browsers. It just takes playing around. One thing nice about this forum is that you can get input from many people.
    Your changes have made a nice improvement. I agree with the above notes about titles,buttons, size of homepage navigation buttons.
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    I enjoyed your site and read through much of it. The only thing
    I would edit if it were my site, is the white backgounds.

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    Default Re: Any Better Now?

    Loved your site and thought it was truly unique and you offer some interesting things for differnt folks. I found the Eulogy thing very interesting...might try it out my self.

    Now as forthe site...the intro..is that a slide show...if so then you might put a Skip intro for those who dont want to go through the slide show...or at least make it move faster...I read fast and it was slow for me..although I suppose you wanted us to take the time and appreciate the butterflies and relax...?

    Agree with other comments and look forward to ging back. Great Job.
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    gets better each time. Could you maybe split the poem into two pages side by side or do a thing with a page turning or......I'm sorry I think that the bg with tiled effect is not the look u r after. It is really better and it will continue to get better. There is nothing wrong with it if U like it, but u want to attract others so, u need the input and u will get it here, keep after it,. I meant to say last post thet it is not always easy, I know. The biggest help is LOOK at other site that are in some way like yours, ones that r trying to convey the same message.

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    Default Re: Any Better Now?

    Few comments:
    -Your home page is not titled.
    -Your header seems out of focus. Checkout other pages where it is crisp.
    -Several pages need to be centered.

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    I like the new direction....I think it will be much cleaner and more attractive to visitors with the refinements.

    I would suggest trying something a little different, though, not by changing/resizing things, but in the order of how they are laid out:

    1. I would put "The Butterfly Project" header at the very top (above the butterfly with the text box at top edge of BV page), and make this text box background transparent. >> If you are using an image to present this font and are unable to make transparent, then you might wish to view your page in someone else's computer as well to determine if your BradleyHand font is presenting or being replaced as well....font shift is common, and often goes unnoticed by us as we design our sites.....You may have to select another Font for your header/site.

    2. Under the header will next stack your Menu....*You can leave this in the exact spot it is in now.

    3. Then, the text "Find Your Wings" (actually a little larger + bold?) 'centered' smack across the butterfly, and becoming the focal point of the page.

    4. Then, lower on the page (toward the bottom of the butterfly) your 2nd text box....same size, as-is (just lowered)

    5. And lastly, under the text in #4 above, your 'Tagline' "From The ButterflyPoem.org" (which has been edited to lose the semi-colon and set in italics) which becomes a nice finishing touch to it all....do not move it other than to lower it to the bottom, still a bit closer to the bottom of the text above = "linked"

    I think this would be not only logically more defined, it would be asthetically "balanced" and inviting. What do you think?
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    Wow! Okay, I'll try it!

    I am honored that you took so much time to give me in depth advice. Thanks Vasili!

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    Wink Re: Any Better Now?

    Wait! There's more!

    I have been trying to find an email SOMEWHERE for you....I want to send you a BV page I mocked up for you....you can open it in BV, providing you save it to My Documents and look for it via BV....

    It's really quite simple, but should save you a lot of fiddling around....

    (I tried to Preview it, but the Image won't display....you can see how I laid it out, though, and if need be you can re-import it accordingly.)

    Maybe it's best if you email me first, and then I can reply with the file.
    (This way, it's not posted in here.....)

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    Cool Re: Any Better Now?

    La-ti-di-la-la-laaaa
    Hmmmmm....lalilalotitotoo!
    What is taking so long????

    Harumph! <drumming fingers on my roller-mouse >
    Ok...smoke break!
    "Cindy! Take my calls....I have my cell. NB time. Maybe in the meantime you can put the daily register on my desk?"

    < walking out to my terrace >

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    I got a really nice email from Our Butterfly Lady.......(she liked it).

    But, the night draws nigh o'er the horizon of Dreamland, prompting her to return to the opportunity in the new morn!

    Anticipation, my Friends...anticipation!


    "Thanks, Cindy.....Good Night! I promise to leave by 2, alright?"

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    Its nice and bright ButterflyLady.. always a bonus to have things nice and colourful. The other alternative is to have everythig faded and looking very minimalist but that can be a hard thing to achieve.

    I agree with everybody who said something regardng that layout. Your idea is excellent but kind of in the way Vasili said.....

    The pages would be soooooo much better if they all looked the same. Not identical of course. It's good that you have used different pictures and different ideas on each page but try this.....

    Make one page.... Index....

    Then save that page as lots of other page names too...

    Aboutme....
    contactme...
    aboutyou... etc

    Then load each of those pages (which, once you have done the above, will all be identical) and enter onto them the relevant info ie.. about me, contct details etc.

    When you save them you will find that all the pages look identical still but the oinfo on them will be correct.

    This will give you site exactly the same appearance through out.

    You are working very hard though and doing a good job too:)

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    Actually, the interior pages would look rather ***** if they had the same image of the butterfly from the Portal as a watermarked background, like you suggested, with the content laid over it.....

    This would offer the continuity that is so important, and be truly themed properly.

    (I did that same thing on my corporate site...if you enter on the Guest side, you'll see a full color pix at the Lobby, and if you click on Careers for instance, the image is thrown back and slightly larger for effect.)

    Whatever Rachel desires!

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    The Butterfly Lady likes the whole concept alot!

    She is also very ill today, but will attempt to make all these changes either later (when the drugs kick in) or tomorrow...(depending how hard they kick).

    Thanks Vasili for all your help. I really feel like this is taking shape!

    I'll check back later tonight... Oh, how do I do the image as a watermark? That would be good to know!

    p.s. do you have any diamond butterflies (grin).

    The Purple Butterfly

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    Flitter-flutter, soft as butter!
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    ................................. "Look no further", the trusted General sings!
    "They come big, and still precious as small,
    ................................You can have it any way you desire at all!"
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    Thanks General, I needed that!

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    Cool Re: Any Better Now?

    Quote Originally Posted by thepurplebutterfly
    Thanks General, I needed that!
    Probably need the watermark more, huh?
    FINE. Sending it....

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    Default Re: Any Better Now?

    Okay, here's what I am at a loss for... my store. I have several new items to put in, but no idea how to make it buyer friendly... Any ideas?

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    Cool Re: Any Better Now?

    You're sure to hear from Beth, Amanda, and Karen about commerce solutions, so I'll take my leave now.
    (I've overdone advising on that topic.....apparently I am too "high tech")

    Get the "watermark"?
    PS: I think "From your friends.." line really needs to be at the bottom....says it all that way, doesn't it? Not just about getting your Wings, but Resources & Inspiration also??? > > And...Center the page. Right-click on the page background > Properties, check "Center", aqnd reset page to 800 wide. Done.

    BYE

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    No, I didn't get the watermark... Where did you send it?

    Thanks so much for everything Vasili! I SO appreciate all your kind help.

    If its okay with you, I would like to add a link to you in my site. I am truly grateful for your generosity.

    All my best,

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    p.s What surprise?

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    (resent to all 3 addresses, to be sure! :: sent 2 emails, the last with a "PS")

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    Quote Originally Posted by thepurplebutterfly
    p.s What surprise?
    ***look at the date and time of that one....that was yesterday, right? (the surprise was you Main page)

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    You rock!

    MANY thanks!

    G'night, kind sir.

    The Purple Butterfly

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    You have a very lovely website, and only hints at the magic you freely offer to all who reach out!

    >PS "Center" your pages...
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    You are a dear, dear, man. I look forward to seeing your own "magic" in the future.

    Hugs,

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