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    Hi everyone from Italy.

    I've just completed my first site and have got it backed up with an adwords campaign. It offers web writing services, particularly to non-native speakers of English. Could I have your feedback please? In particular I have some concerns:

    Do you think the site design is too simple? Does it need more photos and things? (I really like clear simple sites but maybe other people don't?)

    Also I have put my rates up, is that a mistake do you think?

    Thanks very much!
    Fiona www.spiderywriting.com

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    Personally, I refrain from posting rates or prices for creative services up front (each project is more than simply a time matter, or a "word count" for instance). I prefer to evaluate the entire scope, the depth of creative development required, and the nature of the original intent (to deliver precisely within expectation and personal standards). However, up-front pricing does work well for straight fee-for-service as in translation, or depositions......thus my illustration between "shopping cart" and "creative."

    Too simple? On the contrary!

    Take a look at my similar site, and tell me if mine is too simple!
    (It was felt that this design would properly convey the base strength of the purpose of the enterprise, the services offered, and the narrow focus of the profession itself)

    You did fine, Fiona! Quite nice.....
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    Wow! I see what you mean Vasili - so your site is actually just two pages and very simple. How does that work for you? I must say I loved it although I tried to clink on menu along the bottom and couldn't but guess that is the point.

    I agree about pricing and I think I will take that down.

    Do you find a form like yours works better than an email address? I'm not sure how to do one as the Vodahost instructions seem very complicated.

    Thanks for your positive comments, I feel much encouraged!

    Fiona www.spiderywriting.com

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    LOL
    I have a Main page, a Contact page, the "required" Policies page, and the submission / with responding "Thank You" pages.......what more could I want? What more does the visitor need?

    Visitors will decide to participate in this limited opportunity or to simply pass it up based on all I have presented. I need not "sell" them anything.
    The ***** ones will pick up my expertise of composition by the web design itself...I welcome those clients. The others I reserve the right to serve!

    It works great! I am proud of my work (my reputation is preserved), the clients are satisfied with the overwhelming value for what they recieve, and the added revenue adds to my continued personal satisfaction.
    Is there more?

    If email forms in the ABVPF are too much, search out Andy128's profile, and link to his version....a form is strongly advised!

    Keep in mind though, that (being simply designed and Content-lean) my site is the SEO oddball, and does not rely on the common metrics: almost all of the visitors and clients find and access the site by referral, not by Search! This is very much purposely designed, as I would not be able to process a greater workload.......and not fulfilling growing requests may create an adverse reputation that gets around as quickly as being a rip-off!

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    Fiona!

    You work quickly! Poof! Prices gone, "Contact Me For Quote" is up........too cute!

    Here is the link you should follow for a secure email form that is very easy to follow, and effectively performs with undeniable confidence: http://netisopen.com/computer/web/webpagestuff.html

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    Hi, simple is good for me. lol. A small logo may be nice, “not sure if it should be a spider” unless it’s a friendly looking one.
    I think I would bring your portfolio page links onto the main menu. They look quite important & seem a little lost on there own. Few of the pages need centring.

    But looking good otherwise.

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    Thanks Chris, I added a couple of pages and forgot to centre them, so thanks for pointing it out. Agree about a small logo although have to bear in mind as you said that not everyone likes spiders! (I do.) Will move portfolio!

    Thanks again
    Fiona
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    Thank you Vasali - I write quickly too! Interesting comments about your site and service too, I completely see where you are coming from as it is a great site to show people for referrals. In fact, that was my aim initially but I am now enjoying myself! Plus BlueVoda is so easy to use.

    Thanks for link to forms, that may take me a bit longer!

    Best
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    Hi Fiona,

    Simple is good, easy to read and navigate....I do agree with Chris though a logo would look good ..spider? spiders web maybe? ..nice work well done.
    Click the link below for page guidelines (no more sideways scroll)

    http://www.vodahost.com/vodatalk/sho...eferrerid=5490

    How to Center your page
    http://www.vodahost.com/vodatalk/blu...tml#post124746





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    Excellent Fiona! Clean, clear, crisp and to the point. I agree with the above posts... keep up the good work!

    Vasili... you will never cease to amaze me... I like this site!

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    Just a couple of idea’s for you
    http://www.staniek.bmp.net.pl/index2.htm

    http://www.collectors-info.com/testing/spider.html Sorry! Couldn’t resist!

    The word web in an image comes to mind.

    Good luck.

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    Thanks so much for your encouraging replies!

    Chris can I use the red image you sent ìs there copyright or something? Let me know as I like it!

    Best wishes
    Fiona
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    at present a logo-free zone - but not for long...

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    I would imagine so. I pinched of this site.
    http://www.ionicsoft.com/products/ma...8E2AC7F1EDC4A6
    Have a Google search & brows through the images. Another good search engine these days in MS Live & look though the image style search. Think Google will have to do some catching up with this one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Collectors-info
    Just a couple of idea’s for you
    http://www.staniek.bmp.net.pl/index2.htm

    http://www.collectors-info.com/testing/spider.html Sorry! Couldn’t resist!

    The word web in an image comes to mind.

    Good luck.
    Chris is being extremely helpful (as always!).
    Ever since last night, I too have been musing a logo of sorts.....and this morning, I think I have accepted the concept and image in my head as viable, memorable, and "relevant" to your enterprise (this is where I delegate to the graphically talented, no time to do it myself nowadays):

    How about an image of a "web" in your left corner of your header (lower left, arched to 1/5 top) upon which sits a spider typing at 2 computer keyboards...(making use of multiple "arms", demonstrating efficiency and capability) ??????

    If not done too cartoonish, it will negate any negative connotations, and still be professionally recognizable (a brand) that conveys your focus: web optimization and writing ----the multiple keyboards.

    OK....I'm done for now. Back in a week or so!
    Have fun!
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    Simple works good for me - however you mention on two pages that you are familiar with SEO - yet these pages aren't following basic SEO necessary protocol. If anyone knows that, they might shy away.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vasili
    Chris is being extremely helpful (as always!).
    Ever since last night, I too have been musing a logo of sorts.....and this morning, I think I have accepted the concept and image in my head as viable, memorable, and "relevant" to your enterprise (this is where I delegate to the graphically talented, no time to do it myself nowadays):

    How about an image of a "web" in your left corner of your header (lower left, arched to 1/5 top) upon which sits a spider typing at 2 computer keyboards...(making use of multiple "arms", demonstrating efficiency and capability) ??????

    If not done too cartoonish, it will negate any negative connotations, and still be professionally recognizable (a brand) that conveys your focus: web optimization and writing ----the multiple keyboards.

    OK....I'm done for now. Back in a week or so!
    Have fun!
    For you Vasili I will have him spinning on a bar stool playing the piano with all 8 legs on one thread, & I will animate him to a bohemian style French artist writing the logo on this one.
    Dam! I can’t delegate any more all my old staff work for someone else now.
    (This might take some time)

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    Beth - could you give me egs of the SEO protocol you mean? keyword density in the pages. I just wanted to get the thing up at last (after a lot of prevaricating) and then tinker with it later, but would appreciate a bit of clarification? Thanks very much - no problem if you haven't got the time!

    Vasali - love the image, thanks I think multiple arms would be great!

    Chris - thanks so much! Do you think I should use the services of getlogos? I've heard they are good.

    Best wishes
    Fiona
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    Can’t say I have heard of them.
    This bit of software is quite good & easy to use.
    http://www.thelogocreator.com/
    Most logos that you can remember as an ID to a business are usually quite simple.

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