Thread: Is this site online?

I am a newbe is this online ? I am having trouble with pathways in the control panel ect thanks Dale


http://djsmin.com/Lords%20table%20index1.html


also trying to put a guestbook on it but it won't change the "online page" I need some direction please ty

yes.. the page is online, however you want to name your pages without spaces. Those % signs show up to resolve the space.

Karen

Hi, need to reduce the images. Gave up after a minute of loading.

Originally Posted by Karen Mac

yes.. the page is online, however you want to name your pages without spaces. Those % signs show up to resolve the space.

Karen

ok thank you

Originally Posted by Collectors-info

Hi, need to reduce the images. Gave up after a minute of loading.

reduce the images ok... I have a song playing I think that is the slow down thanks. I have "ADD" pathways are a problem, just trying thanks.

another thing if I add to the page do I need to delete it from the cpanel before uploading? I have lots of stupid questions sorry. I've watched the vids a few times thanks

Originally Posted by Karen Mac

yes.. the page is online, however you want to name your pages without spaces. Those % signs show up to resolve the space.

Karen

I went & deleted the % & such now I cannot get the page to open?

Now that you saved the pages without spaces and symbols, you have re-published the pages, right?

Don't forget to make changes to your navigation systems on every page also....

Originally Posted by cutdeep46

I am a newbe is this online ? I am having trouble with pathways in the control panel ect thanks Dale


http://djsmin.com/Lords%20table%20index1.html


also trying to put a guestbook on it but it won't change the "online page" I need some direction please ty

this is the corrected url http://www.djsmin.com/Lordstableindex.html%20
it still has the %20 on it I do not know how to alter it.
I also have a guestbook on the pagemaker on my computer I upload it but it does not change online? do I need to send in a slip for this or something sorry I'm so slow gb

Originally Posted by cutdeep46

this is the corrected url http://www.djsmin.com/Lordstableindex.html%20
it still has the %20 on it I do not know how to alter it.
I also have a guestbook on the pagemaker on my computer I upload it but it does not change online? do I need to send in a slip for this or something sorry I'm so slow gb

Depending on your confidence level, there are a few ways to go about cleaning this up, but I think I will stick to the simplest way of presenting the "logic" and the solution at the same time, so to create something of a foundational habit for you to use next time to apply to another issue that may pop up:

1) Be sure ALL of your pages are simply being saved and published using only the page titles (all in lower case, without spaces or symbols, and without any added extensions whatsover), in the proper sequence --- for example, the FIRST page of your website always needs to be saved and published as index ....nothing more, nothing less: when you see it as a link in your navigation which you can label as "home" or when you wish to return to your Main page via a text link, etc., it is seen as www.djsmin.com/index.html

2) To clean up any other instances of messed up titled pages or how they appear, you will need to get into your account and delete duplicated pages or overlapping navigation that is steering to pages that have not been re-named or re-published properly. Your need to FIRST make sure you have all your pages properly corrected titles and saved first, and then you will use Blue Voda FTP to connect to your account (under TOOLS in BV browser) >> and click on public_html/ to view contents of your main directory (in the right side pane) >> click once on each "page" file that you can spot is named incorrectly, and delete them one by one.

3) Open each previously saved page, and re-publish one at a time to "re-populate" your account directory ---- please be sure each page has the complete and "correct" version of your naqvigation system, otherwise it will not find the pages you want it to look for.

Honestly, this "logical loop" should take you easily through a few processes to demonstrate how each area relates as you solve your present issue, and may offer you a broader understanding of how the pieces fit together.

Hi,
you will really need to do something with those images, they are still loading very slow on my pc, like Chris above I gave up and you dont want that happening.
Well done so far.
Mike

Originally Posted by Vasili

Depending on your confidence level, there are a few ways to go about cleaning this up, but I think I will stick to the simplest way of presenting the "logic" and the solution at the same time, so to create something of a foundational habit for you to use next time to apply to another issue that may pop up:

1) Be sure ALL of your pages are simply being saved and published using only the page titles (all in lower case, without spaces or symbols, and without any added extensions whatsover), in the proper sequence --- for example, the FIRST page of your website always needs to be saved and published as index ....nothing more, nothing less: when you see it as a link in your navigation which you can label as "home" or when you wish to return to your Main page via a text link, etc., it is seen as www.djsmin.com/index.html

2) To clean up any other instances of messed up titled pages or how they appear, you will need to get into your account and delete duplicated pages or overlapping navigation that is steering to pages that have not been re-named or re-published properly. Your need to FIRST make sure you have all your pages properly corrected titles and saved first, and then you will use Blue Voda FTP to connect to your account (under TOOLS in BV browser) >> and click on public_html/ to view contents of your main directory (in the right side pane) >> click once on each "page" file that you can spot is named incorrectly, and delete them one by one.

3) Open each previously saved page, and re-publish one at a time to "re-populate" your account directory ---- please be sure each page has the complete and "correct" version of your naqvigation system, otherwise it will not find the pages you want it to look for.

Honestly, this "logical loop" should take you easily through a few processes to demonstrate how each area relates as you solve your present issue, and may offer you a broader understanding of how the pieces fit together.

Hello thank you for your time. The url www.djsmin.com/index.html
opens the index page, I tried to install a guestbook & I put it on twice by accident, one is up under the top of the page how do I remove that?

I think the slow loading was because of the "cry out to Jesus" song I had installed on the page its 7 mb thats the slow down, I think I'll edit the song down to 2-3 mb & c if that works better. I appreciate your help,I am a slow learner of pathway things like this. thanks Dale

Originally Posted by golfnut

Hi,
you will really need to do something with those images, they are still loading very slow on my pc, like Chris above I gave up and you dont want that happening.
Well done so far.
Mike

Thanks for the info on pics I opened them in "paint" & resized em down from 250 + kb to 12-65 kb or there abouts.
I had opened them in the cpanel & saw the size of them was obnoxious thanks, Dale

Dale

Here are some observations..

I see some other problem with the images. You have resized them manually, and two things I see are a result of that - First, although they are smaller, they are still kb heavy. Secondly, a couple of them are distorted.
You would be better off to take them into pixresizer or a comparable program at their original size, and resizing them there to the size you want them to be on your site. You can also reduce the kbs in that program.

Also, the page itself is pretty wide, causing the need to side scroll to see it all. In general, in order to be viewed by the most possible viewers on the largest possible selection of screens, you should make your page no wider than 800 - 100 at most.

Your text on your home page is running out of the blue area ihn to where the pictures are and is unreadable, so you might consider shrinking the textbox to avoid that overlap.

There is some kind of pink box behind the first row of pictures that is mostly hidden and unreadable.

And then, of courser you already know there is an issue with your guestbook..

Good luck

Originally Posted by larazovich

Dale

Here are some observations..

I see some other problem with the images. You have resized them manually, and two things I see are a result of that - First, although they are smaller, they are still kb heavy. Secondly, a couple of them are distorted.
You would be better off to take them into pixresizer or a comparable program at their original size, and resizing them there to the size you want them to be on your site. You can also reduce the kbs in that program.

Also, the page itself is pretty wide, causing the need to side scroll to see it all. In general, in order to be viewed by the most possible viewers on the largest possible selection of screens, you should make your page no wider than 800 - 100 at most.

Your text on your home page is running out of the blue area ihn to where the pictures are and is unreadable, so you might consider shrinking the textbox to avoid that overlap.

There is some kind of pink box behind the first row of pictures that is mostly hidden and unreadable.

And then, of courser you already know there is an issue with your guestbook..

Good luck

hi ty for the info I am learning slow but sure, not too concerned with the pics clarity yet, as I am learning to resize ec cetra. I loaded the guestbook twice by accident how do I remove the doulbe that comes up behind the header? the dbl guestbook is the problem at the moment ty Dale

>> At this point, it would be best for you to un-install all instances of your Guestbooks.... that way you can focus on tidying up your site completely once it is free and unencumbered. * To uninstall, simply reverse the process, from the same location.
>> If as you say, your Guestbook is "under" a page item, then your need only click on that "page" (or object, if you used one as a page backdrop) and right-click > SEND TO BACK ... this way it will truly be under everything, exposing your Guestbook to be deleted.

Then, when your site is ready, simply re-install it with much more confidence and purpose!

Originally Posted by Vasili

>> At this point, it would be best for you to un-install all instances of your Guestbooks.... that way you can focus on tidying up your site completely once it is free and unencumbered. * To uninstall, simply reverse the process, from the same location.
>> If as you say, your Guestbook is "under" a page item, then your need only click on that "page" (or object, if you used one as a page backdrop) and right-click > SEND TO BACK ... this way it will truly be under everything, exposing your Guestbook to be deleted.

Then, when your site is ready, simply re-install it with much more confidence and purpose!

Yes thank you I worked yesterday on downsizing pics, I deleted the guestbook entries couple questions:
1 I deleted the html in the cpanel & re uploaded but the guestbook error is still present.
2 after I deleted the guestbook ,saved it ,then re-opened it then uploaded to cpanel the last picture has a "double" or one offset over the other I even deleted that pic completly, saved, then opened it again, then saved to cpanel & the pic is still messed up? I got to confused & Quit yesterday. help ? thanks Dale

If you are using Blue Voda, there is absolutely no reason whatsoever to be messing around with HTML pages, going about your cPanel, or any other process other than to systematically re-publish using BV as it was intended -- as you were instructed by the Tutorials and what is re-inforced throughout these forums.

Once you resolve this logistical failure (I recall you using BV, so as far as I am concerned, it is an extraordinary lapse), you can then resolve your issues readily. I am sure once this is clarified, the others will then be able to help you snap up your layout and other lesser tasks much easier and more productively.

This is where I beg off......

Originally Posted by Vasili

If you are using Blue Voda, there is absolutely no reason whatsoever to be messing around with HTML pages, going about your cPanel, or any other process other than to systematically re-publish using BV as it was intended -- as you were instructed by the Tutorials and what is re-inforced throughout these forums.

Once you resolve this logistical failure (I recall you using BV, so as far as I am concerned, it is an extraordinary lapse), you can then resolve your issues readily. I am sure once this is clarified, the others will then be able to help you snap up your layout and other lesser tasks much easier and more productively.

This is where I beg off......

ty for your reply deleting in the cpanel was a last resort it still did not clear up the posting of a new updated page it STILL posts the old page I did as follows
1 subtracted all the things I wanted to from the page
2 saved back to file
3 reopened bv
4 reposted the page
5 problem still exists
6 pulled a few hairs
7 deleted the html in cpanel
8 reopened the bv prog & uploaded the corrected page
9 open online page...problem still exists....?
(the address book in the back of the header )
ok now what? ty Dale

Dale-
This has to be something fairly simple..Let's take it from the top.
What exactly are the steps you go through when you publish your page?

Originally Posted by larazovich

Dale-
This has to be something fairly simple..Let's take it from the top.
What exactly are the steps you go through when you publish your page?

I edit the page then I save it as index, then I load it , then publish it.
just like it says..?.. ty

what do you mean, load it?

Originally Posted by larazovich

what do you mean, load it?

upload it

upload it where?
You should just be
1. creating it in the bv sitebuilder
2. saving it
3. publishing it.

It will automatically be saved in your BV folder.

Are you doing anything differently than this and only this?

Originally Posted by larazovich

upload it where?
You should just be
1. creating it in the bv sitebuilder
2. saving it
3. publishing it.

It will automatically be saved in your BV folder.

Are you doing anything differently than this and only this?

upload it where?------------------posting it through the bv program
You should just be
1. creating it in the bv sitebuilder --------- yes
2. saving it------------ yes
3. publishing it.-------- yes

It will automatically be saved in your BV folder.>>>cpanel ? yes

Are you doing anything differently than this and only this?
that is it.
I will have to put in a ticket, because the error continues to show . thanks.

Originally Posted by cutdeep46

upload it where?------------------posting it through the bv program
You should just be
1. creating it in the bv sitebuilder --------- yes
2. saving it------------ yes
3. publishing it.-------- yes

It will automatically be saved in your BV folder.>>>cpanel ? yes

Are you doing anything differently than this and only this?
that is it.

I think, what we have here, is a failure to communicate. Either you are not hearing the others, or visa-versa.

Just to humor, you might try once more, letting go of any preconceived notions you may have:

Only:
Create
Save
Publish

Don't allow C-panel, upload, or any of these other unnecessary (at this juncture) terms enter your head. After you perform these steps, and only these steps, everyone here will be on the same page. If the problem persists, the people here can properly diagnose, and take you to the next step. They are very good at this, but only if everyone is properly understanding each other.

If you are 100% certain that all the others are wrong, wait for your ticket response. Though I warn you, there is a chance they may direct you right back here!

Originally Posted by mwalsh62

I think, what we have here, is a failure to communicate. Either you are not hearing the others, or visa-versa.

Just to humor, you might try once more, letting go of any preconceived notions you may have:

Only:
Create
Save
Publish

Don't allow C-panel, upload, or any of these other unnecessary (at this juncture) terms enter your head. After you perform these steps, and only these steps, everyone here will be on the same page. If the problem persists, the people here can properly diagnose, and take you to the next step. They are very good at this, but only if everyone is properly understanding each other.

If you are 100% certain that all the others are wrong, wait for your ticket response. Though I warn you, there is a chance they may direct you right back here!

that is what I did
create
save
publish
there were problems on the web page
I corrected the problems (deleted guestbook)
saved
published
I know of all the spacing problems ec cetra, this was a geterdone approach with I can fix it later attitude, but it won't fix??

oh yes GOOD MORNING!

Top O' The Morning To You!

I hope you understand that I was not trying to be condescending, I am relatively new also, and have had all problems brought to this forum resolved in this forum. I have also at times not made myself clear in my inquiries, which can lead to confusion, which is what this thread appeared to be rife with.

I have faith that your problems will be figured out, and if nothing else, think of it as a learning experience, which is never a bad thing!

Good luck to you,

Originally Posted by mwalsh62

Top O' The Morning To You!

I hope you understand that I was not trying to be condescending, I am relatively new also, and have had all problems brought to this forum resolved in this forum. I have also at times not made myself clear in my inquiries, which can lead to confusion, which is what this thread appeared to be rife with.

I have faith that your problems will be figured out, and if nothing else, think of it as a learning experience, which is never a bad thing!

Good luck to you,

Yes I look at life as a learning experience. having ADHD, pathways are a problem boucing back & forth can leave one frazeled for sure. I have to step away from things for a bit, shake it out & continue, I learn from mistakes anyways......

I am still trying to figure out why the bv construction page has a pic on it that I deleted ? I deleted the pic, saved, opened, published, & the pc is still there? grrrr lol

Are you sure you do not have 2 pages, copies, maybe similarly named, that the pic is still on. Perhaps your link is to the wrong page?

Originally Posted by mwalsh62

Are you sure you do not have 2 pages, copies, maybe similarly named, that the pic is still on. Perhaps your link is to the wrong page?

no there is only 1 saved page named index
it was strange after I deleted the address book
saved it
published it
there were 2 pic of the same ID the one on top was covering the bottom one about 60%
I went back & deleted the pic, saved,then published & one pic still was there & still is it is the last pick on the bottom right. I dunno ..must be aliens.... i guess I can start over completly but i have no time at the moment...so I'll geterdone when i gettoit lol thank you for you diligence Dale

Originally Posted by cutdeep46

no there is only 1 saved page named index
it was strange after I deleted the address book
saved it
published it
there were 2 pic of the same ID the one on top was covering the bottom one about 60%
I went back & deleted the pic, saved,then published & one pic still was there & still is it is the last pick on the bottom right. I dunno ..must be aliens.... i guess I can start over completly but i have no time at the moment...so I'll geterdone when i gettoit lol thank you for you diligence Dale

Hello I tried again this morning as follows
1. opened bv made some changes
2. saved as index
closed
reopened bv & opened index
published index
& this is what came out www.djsmin.com/index.html
it doubled up I think I need to reinstall bv
as it is not saving properly. thanks Dale

Dale
What will work for you is this:

Start from scratch.

First - rename all your images so that there are no spaces or upper case letters in the names.

Next - Rebuild a totally new page. Don't open the old page and change it - start new.

Place all your new images where you want them on the page - make it just as you want it to be.

Remember, do not use your old page or old images. Make this one new.

Once it is rebuilt, publish it as index, only index, not index.html

Reinstalling BV should not be necessary. If you feel you must go ahead, but that won't get rid of pages you have made.

Many times when you try and fix a problem it just gets more confusing. It is a lot simpler and more reliable, and much faster to just rebuild.

This should work for you.

Good Luck

Originally Posted by larazovich

Dale
What will work for you is this:

Start from scratch.

First - rename all your images so that there are no spaces or upper case letters in the names.

Next - Rebuild a totally new page. Don't open the old page and change it - start new.

Place all your new images where you want them on the page - make it just as you want it to be.

Remember, do not use your old page or old images. Make this one new.

Once it is rebuilt, publish it as index, only index, not index.html

Reinstalling BV should not be necessary. If you feel you must go ahead, but that won't get rid of pages you have made.

Many times when you try and fix a problem it just gets more confusing. It is a lot simpler and more reliable, and much faster to just rebuild.

This should work for you.

Good Luck

ok I'll do that, but it does not solve the problem of the dbling up & not saving properly .
I should be able to open a page change it , save it , open it ,publish it , & have a mirror of what I have done, correct?
the program is not working in that fashion & there will always be changes needed, I kind of thought that was the beauty of this program was to be able to add & subtract without a degree in computer technology lol
anyways I will try again & again till it works! thanks Dale

Hi getting things ironed out here, I sent in a ticket this morning & then sent in a screen shot, said they had not seen such before. It was recomended to down load the ccleaner which I did I ran that & it cleaned out alot of old stuff that the other 2 cleaners I use missed.
I started over again saving my work & checking as I go

www.djsmin.com/index.html

Question how do i get rid of the right side margin as you see it is out of balance ? Does one have to have that set at the git go ? I tried lowering the width down to 750 it didn't have any effect.?

thanks for your help guys & gals ! Dale

http://www.djsmin.com/index.html

Thanks for the directions we got the double thing fixed got ccleaner & it cleaned out the problem
NEXT
how do I get rid of the space to the right side of the page?

Next
I have a subdomain I want to get started on also do I create a folder in the html folder of djsmin.com for that , yes i know I need to look at the video s again & I will thanks just a couple Questions I had thanks Dale

Originally Posted by cutdeep46

http://www.djsmin.com/index.html

Thanks for the directions we got the double thing fixed got ccleaner & it cleaned out the problem
NEXT
how do I get rid of the space to the right side of the page?

Next
I have a subdomain I want to get started on also do I create a folder in the html folder of djsmin.com for that , yes i know I need to look at the video s again & I will thanks just a couple Questions I had thanks Dale

First, you should make your site no wider than 800. Although there are many opinions about this, if you do this, the most possible people will be able to view it without side scrolling. As it stands now you are nearly 1200, and the whole page does not display without side scrolling.

Once you have done this:
In the sitebuilder, go to View, then select Page Properties.
Tick the box that says 'center in browser', and your page will be centered, with equal borders on both sides.

Another help is this:
Again in the sitebuilder - go to Layout, then select Guide Settings.
Here, tick the box that says Show Guide Borders, and set them at 800 width, and whatever length you like.

Then while you are building your site, build only within these borders which will now be visible for you in the sitebuilder only - they will not show on your published page.

Don't forget, always build your page snug to the very top and very left of your sitebuilding page.

Good Luck

thanks for the response.

I chged it & did as you mentioned I did not reduce the background yet but:
1. doing this reduces pics pretty small, seems like alot of wasted space on the online page? guess I need to experiment with it huh ? it was a full screen before other then the little bit of misalignment on the left side
this is the 800 wide http://www.djsmin.com/index.html
redoing is good practice anyway thanks Dale

Dale,
Although it was a full screen for you, it was really hard to read for those with a smaller monitor, or a monitor with less resolution than yours. You really want for the most possible people to be able to see your site easily.

The size of your pictures should never be adjusted by grabbing the corners and squishing or stretching. This causes the distortion visible in a couple of your images.

If you are concerned about the size of your images, you could create a slide show that would show them one at a time instead of all at once, and then you could show them bigger.

BV has a feature called banner rotator which can do this for you, or you can find a free slideshow maker at picturetrails

Have a look at either of the sites in my signature to see an example of one of the picture trails slide shows.

Hope this helps