Thread: domain clarification please

Whats the difference between a subdomain and an add-on domain. And what is a parked domain (while I'm at it).

I have a single domain at the moment, but am thinking of adding 2 more domain names.

One would be for a top level directory, but the other would need to direct to a 3rd level directory.

eg.
/public_html/subentity1
/public_html/thingy/thingy2/subentity2

where the subentity is the directory that the new domains would need to point to.

Both are existing directory structures and cant be moved without a lot of hassells.

I was wondering how this should be done for each one.

Any advise is appreciated. :)

Originally Posted by apricotslice

Whats the difference between a subdomain and an add-on domain. And what is a parked domain (while I'm at it).

I have a single domain at the moment, but am thinking of adding 2 more domain names.

One would be for a top level directory, but the other would need to direct to a 3rd level directory.

eg.
/public_html/subentity1
/public_html/thingy/thingy2/subentity2

where the subentity is the directory that the new domains would need to point to.

Both are existing directory structures and cant be moved without a lot of hassells.

I was wondering how this should be done for each one.

Any advise is appreciated. :)

1. A parked domain is a domain name that you have purchased and is not pointed to a web server or your webhost.

2. A subdomain is essentially a folder/file within your main domain, is free to add, and carries the name of your main domain with it in it's url (address).

3. An add on domain, acts exactly the same as your main domain, meaning it is independent of any other domain and costs for the name of this domain.

You can have unlimited sub and add on domains in your one voda hosting account.

If these directories, folders, are already created and you decided to go to an add-on domain, you can simple move these files from folder to folder within your control panel. Not much work ...

Originally Posted by LadyEye

If these directories, folders, are already created and you decided to go to an add-on domain, you can simple move these files from folder to folder within your control panel. Not much work ...

So when you create an add-on domain, it creates a new directory in public_html ? eg public_html/add-on. I assume the directory name is the same as the domain name you choose ?

And your saying to then copy the existing directory structure to the new directory ?

Theres just the matter then of either a million redirection files or changing a million links on external sites :( I was hoping the add-on would attach to the existing structure so I wouldnt ahve to do any of that. (not a million, but a significant number).

Is there anyway to put a directory level redirection in for any file hit under that directory ?

<meta name="verify-v1" content="kXeaetyMGEBlOydBmTdNmuboqhF3MqgkjbU/ft8IgA8=" />
<META HTTP-EQUIV="REFRESH" CONTENT="0;URL=http://www.nameofdomain.com/directory/directory">


I believe the above script would work for that ... you can redirect that new add on domain that you purchase to the url you want ... (what is in red is what you change) ....

You place this script in the page html (right click on the page and you will see where) place between head tag.

Thankyou :)

yw .... Is that your artwork on your page? Very pretty ...

If you mean the painting on my home page, it was done by a freind. She kindly gave me permission to use it. She has done some very inspiring work in recent times, but that one is my favourite.

Glad you like to too :)

I do ... nice work by your friend and I am sure she is pleased for you to use it on your site ... :)

Off the plot, but other examples of her work are here :

http://www.circleofatlantis.com/roslen/

I've finally come back to this add-on domain issue and would like to reclarify.

If the primary domain is something.com then we get a directory structure like this :

public_html

Now when you put an add-on domain of thisisit.com you get a directory structure that looks like this :

public_html
.....thisisit

So www.something.com will execute public_html/index.html
and
www.thisisit.com will execute public_html/thisisit/index.html

Would that be right ?

I want to be sure I understand how it works before I order it all.

Originally Posted by apricotslice

I've finally come back to this add-on domain issue and would like to reclarify.

If the primary domain is something.com then we get a directory structure like this :

public_html

Now when you put an add-on domain of thisisit.com you get a directory structure that looks like this :

public_html
.....thisisit

So www.something.com will execute public_html/index.html
and
www.thisisit.com will execute public_html/thisisit/index.html

Would that be right ?

I want to be sure I understand how it works before I order it all.

Everything for your main domain gets published and is stored in public_html (unless you have created additional folders inside for this domain) and will execute the index page for this domain

Everything for your add on domain gets published and is stored in public_html/addondomain and will execute the index page for this domain

P.S. - you need not ever type index.html as by default this is the page that is brought up when typing in either domain .. this holds true for this index page only - all other pages need the nameofthepage.html typed for the page to open ..

It is also a good idea to create a folder on your computer in MYDOCUMENTS/BLUEVODA by the name of this add on domain and then store all of the .bvp files that you make in this folder - this prevents any overwriting of your current .bvp files that may end up being named the same - examples - index - contactus - and possibly more ...

Remember too that you must type the name of the domain after public_html/ for your add on domain and remove this when publishing pages to your main domain - you do not use the .com extension or anything - only the name of the domain ...

Good Luck ..

Ok, its taken a long time, but I'm finally ready to order an Add-on domain.

errrr.......where do I order this ?

Originally Posted by apricotslice

Ok, its taken a long time, but I'm finally ready to order an Add-on domain.

errrr.......where do I order this ?

Great .. here you go - you can order directly here ...

https://vodahost.com/modernbill/order/orderwiz.php?v=4

Thankyou, done and done :)

New question :

Is there anyway of doing directory level redirect ?

I've copied what was a deep subdirectory into the new domain, now I want to say to any incoming old url for anything in that old directory to go to the new domain instead and pick up the same file name there.

Any way of doing that ?

Cpanel seems to have a file redirect, but given there is several dozen pages that get outside hits, I'd rather not have to set up redirection for all of them individually.

Correction : 43 different files that all get hit from outside links individually.

Thats too many to do individual redirects for.

Originally Posted by apricotslice

Correction : 43 different files that all get hit from outside links individually.

Thats too many to do individual redirects for.

Yes, if you do not want to lose those hits to those pages that are deep in the subdirectory then yes, you will want to do redirects, that is if you want them going to the new directory .. otherwise, if you don't, those external links will give an error and you won't want that.

I've done individual links for about 2/3 of the files, and left the others where they were.

Seems silly that with add-on domains, we cannot redirect an entire directory in a single link. Must be a way to do that.

Originally Posted by apricotslice

I've done individual links for about 2/3 of the files, and left the others where they were.

Seems silly that with add-on domains, we cannot redirect an entire directory in a single link. Must be a way to do that.

.. lol .. you could if you made one link that was a main page for this directory, you could then just direct it to this one page that contained the other links ..

but where you have individual urls, or pages that have external links, all those page urls would need redirection ..

.. you could also move this sub to your other, but then the url would change from one domain to the other ...

I know what you mean though, but if each individual page is being linked externally you don't want to lose that page url .. that is the main purpose, to not kill that link - the page url - for those that are finding you from outside and arriving on your site ..

I wish !

This started out as a games directory for a few files to share with people. I then over time wrote a whole series of guides, each one linked from a different forum thread on the game site. Then I made a home page for it, gave it an in game entity, and made it into something big. All over the course of several years.

I finally gave it a domain name, and thought it would be simple to redirect everything with a single directory link. Oops.

Oh well, the guts of it is re-directed now.

Now to figure out how to move the phpBB forum under the new domain :)

Originally Posted by apricotslice

I wish !

This started out as a games directory for a few files to share with people. I then over time wrote a whole series of guides, each one linked from a different forum thread on the game site. Then I made a home page for it, gave it an in game entity, and made it into something big. All over the course of several years.

I finally gave it a domain name, and thought it would be simple to redirect everything with a single directory link. Oops.

Oh well, the guts of it is re-directed now.

Now to figure out how to move the phpBB forum under the new domain :)

Well, what a great success story! Awesome for you!

Well, just like you want to move your phpbb forum, you could have with the subdomain, but the individual pages is what you don't want to lose, so they are worth keeping .. :)

Now, be sure you have back up of this forum ..

are you really sure you want to move this? And are you comfortable doing so yourself?

I might rethink this move - why do you think you need it moved?

I used to be a systems analyst, so close forum, full backup, create new one, reinstall mods and logos, restore backup on new forum, check it out. Leave the old one in place until your satisfied its moved correctly. At least, thats the plan. :) Fortunately, its not a high volume forum, so shouldnt be a problem having it closed for a while.

As to why to move it, circleofatlantis is a spiritual site, while apricotmappingservice is a game site. While there is an overlap in the way I approach things, it makes more sense for the forum to be under its correct domain as well as the main files.

Besides, one of the other forums I have is being considered for having its own add-on domain as well, so the games one is worth experimenting to see if the move is possible. If it is, its likely I'll add a 2nd add-on domain.

Okay .. you have it covered .. just remember too, your forum, also gets indexed in searches with any possible topic, but like you say, it's not high volume so you will be okay and might as well get things set straight ..

Good for you! It's nice to hear your success, I wish you well!!

You might consider the phpbb3 forum, as the version is now out and updates, etc., for 2 will no longer exist - so you might consider installing 3 now, sounds like you have the know how ..

Theres just been an update for version 2 as well. I'm not convinced I want to go to 3 yet. When I looked at the specs for the beta, I was thinking it was getting too complex. Still, probably an idea to have another look at it.

Good point about the search engines, I'd forgotten about that. Good reason to leave the old forum there permanently, with posting turned off. Put a banner link on the top of it with the new forum address if I can get that mod to work. Thanks for that :)

I think the beta stage is now over ..

I just converted mine from 2 to 3 .. you can have a look here ..

Some great features come along with 3 and of course things will only get better in time with more features added to 3 . .. so might be worth a relook for sure ..

Good Luck with everything, I hope things go smoothly for you!