Thread: Domain Name transfer

Hi Folks,

I have a friend who has a website www.gngu.co.za

Thier are several things they would like to do:

1. Keep thier domain name
2. Have Vodahost as their webhost.

What is the process one must now follow to achieve this?

Hi, VH seemed to only support
.com / .net / .org / .info / .us / .biz / .co.uk / .org.uk /.ca Domains.
But no problem! Get a new VH account & you will receive the welcome email with the details for server/password/login.
You will then be able to go to the existing domain providers control panel & point the domain at the new VH server with the details that was in the welcome email.
It may take a few hours or so to propagate.

Hi Chris,

Ok they have purchased the site.

What is the process they have to follow in order to point the domain to the VH server?

Hi Rob,

That site is registerred here. Click to open the Registrar's site.
Under the Domain Registration heading, is Update Form Generator. Use that to update the account. Just follow their instructions. They will then ask for approval by the person/organisation in section 2 of the form.
When editing the form, make sure your friend becomes the owner of the domain.
The main info required for the update and pointing to VH is in sections 6a, 6b, 6e and 6f. This info can be obtained from your friend's welcoming email from VH when he signs up with VH.

If you have trouble doing all this you can contact the Registrar by phone. Else you can contact me and I will do it for you at a small cost.

Just remember that when he points away from his current host, his site might go off-line. So first make sure his site published and ready at VH and then do the DNS update.

Not so sure if they will do this, but if you can get hold of those original files from the current host, you might be lucky to upload that to the VH server. The other preferred option is to re-design the site first using BlueVoda.

Good luck.

If you are having problems with domain extensions and "pointing" simply use a re-direct to VH ... leave it where it is and avoid the "registration" snafu.

Rob. The domain name stays with UniForum (The registrar where the domain is currently registerred). By completing sections 6a, 6b, 6e and 6f, you are pointing to or re-directing to VH. It is actually a very basic DNS update procedure. Download the Update Form Generator, complete it and email back to the registrar (email given on the form). JUST make sure your email Format is setup as plain text and do not use MS Word or any other program as your email editor. It is an automated process (computers attending to your email and doing the updates). If there is a problem, they will highlight the mistake. Simply correct and email again, untill it is successful.

I have done a couple of these DNS updates with UniForum for myself, my clients and friends.

Hi Tom,

It seems as if you and I both burn the midnight oil doing these things for other folk.

I am doing this site for the Gauteng North Golf Union and hopefully tomorrow we can have verything up and running.

thanks for your help it is appreciated

Hi TOm,

MAybe you can help get my form pages to work like they should?

Would you mind checking www.gnjgf.co.za/entryform.php for me and see why it doesnt send the way it should.

I see on your site you have an entry form that works -which is simple enough for my purposes.

Hi Rob,
I see you are still using the action page method. BV10 now has a Form Wizard, making life very easy setting up your form. Click here for a tutorial by Navaldesign. You no longer need the action page. Instead you can have a simple Thank You page. See the link, its all there.

Hi Tom,

I have received notification from Uniforum that the changes have been made and having veiwed them I see that side of things has been succesful.

What is the procedure form here? Specifically what do I have to change on Blue Voda that when I publish the changes become immediate?

What changes do I have to make in order to send and receive emails from the forms I generate?

Can I use my mweb email adress in any of the forms?

Sorry for all the questions but I am sure that as a co.za you will know what I mean.

Hi Rob,

I just had a look at Uniforum and you have not enterred any details for 6b and 6f on the Uniforum form. You will also find this info on your VH welcoming email. In that email, find the section "
Domain Name - Name server Information (DNS) & Transfer Instructions:

There you will find two rows:
ns1.voda19.com (where 19 is your primary server at VH)
ns2.voda20.com (where 20 is your secondary server at VH)

Next to each of these you will see your IP for each server. Those are the two values that you must use for Unforum's 6b and 6f values. Re-submit the Update Form Generator with these two values added.

Regarding your email and form. Have you read the thread I gave in the link of my last post? I just need to make sure....
Yes you can use your mweb email in the form.

If you experience any more problems with that form after this, then start a new thread in the Forms room. There you will receive far more and speedy replies to solve the problem.

Good luck.

Hi Rob, I have edited my first line in the above post. Please take note.

Hi Tom,

Thanks for the reply.

So if I understand you correctly.

We are looking the the IP address for the two servers ? that was supplied in the original VH email.

I n my case the IP address is the same.

If we are talking the same language then I only have to add those IP address's and wait for an additional update from uniforum.

Hi Tom,

Sorry 19 and 20 servers differ by one -not the same

Hi Rob,
Those two IP addresses cannot be the same. If it is, submit a ticket to VH and enquire about that. But I'm sure you must have given them to you. Just check your welcoming/ login information email again.

Yes, you are correct. You need to submit a new update and wait. Normally it does not take that long. Sometimes only about 1 to 2 hours.

Hi Tom,

I have sent through the update.

Hopefully we wont have to wait the full 24 hours like the last time.

I appreciate your help in this regard and hopefully I will be up and running faster this time

I hope that computer will answer you very soon. I have not had any bad experience with them yet.

Hi Tom,

Can I now publish like normal and that will make the web page changes in the correct palce or do I have to modify my addon status?

I suppose it will be okay to publish Rob. I do not have much personal experience about addon domains yet. Once you have received your confirmation from Uniforum, you can test your site again. If it is not there, we will take the next step. In the mean time, you can continue publishing.

Hi Tom,

If I publish will the chnages be made to my gnjgf.co.za website.

I would expect that with the pointing being changed I do not have to go republish everything.

If I publish would I then publish to public_html/gnjgf or public_html/gnjgf.co.za?

I am not sure.

Hi Rob,

I'll check quickly. Will be back just now...

Hi Rob,

Click here for the tutorial. You need to publish to the public_html/gnjgf folder. See the description below the tutorial video.

Hi Tom,

Thats perfect.

The subdomain exsists.

Do I have to redirect or is that already done by th euniforum scenario?

I see the tutorial is slightly differnet to the cPanel I have but no problem I think that mearly indicates that I joined at an earlier date to this release being available.

Hi Rob,

The UniForum update will automatically point to your hosting server and your site should be up and running as soon as the update has been done. The last one I did for a friend took less than an hour for the site to be visisble after the changes made by UniForum.

Hi Tom,

Thanks again for your help.

I am publishing so long but do not see the changes occuring. Maybe it will take a bit longer.

With the servers already set I would have expected it to be showing. Maybe I should not be to expectant but more patient.

Question - With me being hosted with Vodahost do I still need to have MWeb?

This costs on both end sand I think somewhere some money can be saved.

I know this is not the thread but as a Neighbour in the same country you might have found something that works.

YOu have my contact details at uniform if you would like to respond via normal mail.

Okay Rob,

I'll contact you per email. By the way, lol, you are confusing me a bit... You started with a site gngu in your fisrt post above and we ended with gnjgf.... Was'nt the last one with VH all the time? I do not see any changes done at UniForum for the gngu site at all....

Hi TOm,

It does get a bit confussing.

I am doing both gngu and the gnjgf.

The gnjgf is the one I am busy with and having discussion with here.

I go through the similar process during the day assisting the Union with there as they are in a similar position.

Hi Rob,

I've reconsidered and answersing you here. Others might learn from the eperience as well.

You still need Mweb as you service provider (ISP) to get you connected to the outside world. VH is your hosting company only. Mweb is your ISP and if you have a package with them, the email is included. I use Telkomsa as my ISP and the additional email comes in handy.

Originally Posted by Rob (SA)

Hi TOm,

It does get a bit confussing.

I am doing both gngu and the gnjgf.

The gnjgf is the one I am busy with and having discussion with here.

I go through the similar process during the day assisting the Union with there as they are in a similar position.

Understood...

Hi TOm,

Thanks that sorts a lot of things.

Mweb stays, VH stays, Telkom stays.

Again your time here is valued - I will drop you a line once up and publishing.

My pleasure Rob. Now, I'm off to try and install Joomla for my new(next) templates and instructional design website.

Hi Rob,
This one http://www.gnjgf.co.za/index.html looks different than http://www.gnjgf.co.za/

Check your linking, etc.

hi Tom,

Welcome back.

The . . . .index.html is my very first attempts and the later my latest.

Do I have to go back to my first method of working where the front page is called index.html or will this BV do it by itself - talk about confusing me.

I just need to clear up something... Which is your main domain and which is to be your addon domain?

Hi Tom,

My domain is www.oryan-projects.com and my addon domain or transfered domain will be www.gnjgf.co.za

I hope this process will work and not create to much confussion

Just realised you have changed to php. Good choice. Just go and delete the index.html using VH's File Manager in the control panel or using the FTP manager in the Tools menu. You cannot have the html and php. That is why you will not see the new updated php pages.

The addon will work great, lol. Should not be confusing. I'm planning to do the same still.

Rob,

Check out this one. http://www.gnjgf.co.za/index.php
By the way, you have stretch those images in the ad banner. Not good. Same with buttons I think.

Hi Tom,

My change from html to php was not done due to knowledge - I wouldnt know the difference.

I achieve the result.

Am I correct in sayiong that these "index files should exsist .I read somewhere taht if you just type in the begining of the site ie ww.gnjgf.co.za you will get directed without having to type www.gnjgf.co.za/index.html

If I publish from here on in ar eyou saying my front page must be called index. I was agin of the impression I could call it anything as long as all other pages are directed to it?

Rob,

Your home page must always be named index.html
All small letter, no spaces, etc. The index page is your main landing page, and yes, it is not necessary to always type the full path to open the page. You have read correctly and the index page will open if you only type www.gnjgf.co.za

Also make sure you are linking correctly to the index page from the other pages.

Hi Tom,

I guess that if this is the method that must be adopted here - I will have to use what is tried and tested.

I will change the front page to index.php - Based on your encouragement to use php rather than html.

May I ask why the diff and what is the benefit - I see a php file is bigger in size althoughseemingly carrying the same data?

We are somewhat of the topic of domain transfer - I hope I dont get into to much trouble with this - maybe I can delete some of these entries?

It's OK Rob,

Picture this scenario: You have a menu bar, a footer, a logo, a header. You have them on each and every page.... Now, you want to make changes, say to your menu bar and the footer. With html it means you must do these changes on each and every page, save them and publish all of them again.

With php, you basically have a separate page for the menu bar, a separate one for the footer, separate one for the header/logo. They are called up on your pages by means of coding (you paste and edit in html boxes on all the pages). If you want to make changes to the menu bar, you only update and publish the menu bar page. The changes will automatically reflect on all the other published pages, saving lots of valuable time and money.

See Navaldesign's thread on the php single menu option.