Hey Everyone,

I have a shared hosting plan. What happens if my site starts getting to much traffic? Is there a way to avoid from keeping the site from going down if the traffic starts getting to heavy? Or to keep it from slowing down the loading of the site?

Thanks.

Well.. I dont think you will ever have to worry about this on vodahost. Unless you are running videos, games and mp3 download sites. You need your own server for that kind of stuff.

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Hey Karen Mac,

Thanks for reading. To understand you correct even when I'm on the standard vodahost shared hosting plan I will probably not have a problem?

Thanks.

No.. you shouldnt unless you are so very popular that even Mickey Mouse knows who you are.. you should have no problem.

Traffic wont be an issue.. however, if you are running those chat scripts, videos etc.. and you pull more than 1/3 of the servers cpu you will get shut down.

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Actually, VodaHost Terms of Service clearly states the allowances for each Account:

Examples of Totally Unacceptable material:
IRC Bots.
Warez Sites.
MP3's (unless You are the Artist).
Password sharing sites.
Sites that run any type of proxy script.
Pirated Software.
Hacked programs and archives

10) Resource Usage
Users may not initiate the following:
a) Use 5% or more of system resources (This included CPU and memory) There are numerous activities that could cause such problems; these include: CGI scripts, FTP, PHP, HTTP, etc. If this clause is breached it will trigger an auto kill failsafe mechanism on the server which will auto suspend the violating account.
b) Run any type of interactive real-time chat applications that require server resources. Remotely-hosted services are permitted.
c) Run stand-alone, unattended server-side processes at any point in time on the server. This includes any and all daemons, such as IRCD.
d) Run any software that interfaces with an IRC (Internet Relay Chat) network.
e) Offer services to third parties that are run off of VodaHost's servers.
f) Run any gaming servers or games scripts for single or multi player games.
g) Run an email server offering free or paid email accounts to the general public. Example: Hotmail, Yahoo Mail, GMail ,etc...
H) Operate a online radio and or movie service that uses our servers.

11) Bandwidth Usage
You are allocated an unlimited monthly bandwidth allowance.

Yes Dear.. I stand corrected. It was late and i didnt go LOOK it up.

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So with that said, if a site is just providing static information...
How many concurrent sessions could we expect?

I ask this because a site was highlighted on the news last night.
They are in the same business I am in although they are not a competitor.
when I went to their site, it was down for an hour.

The local news feature basically shut this site down, but I can't believe it was alot of traffic. (local news in San Jose)?

Is there a way to calculate it?

Your answers are appreciated.

It is a matter of the bandwidth that particular website is allowed on whatever server it is hosted on.

VodaHost allows unlimited bandwidth per month for each account, so this will never be an issue.

If you want to know the formula to calculate visits per MB band, that is entirely a different story, as it is based on "download" size, not number counts -- each web page has different load sizes. It is far more intelligent to pay attention to the Site Stats for each website, and to be able to use this information to your advantage proactively.

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Also keep in mind that even though you have unlimited bandwidth the bandwidth speed is limited to a certain amount. So even if you have visitors constantly on your site, 24/7, using the maximum transfer rate per second, for the entire month, it is still only going to be using X gigs of bandwidth. (Probably a couple hundred gigs, I can't say for certain).

When you get to the point that your website starts to load slowly (takes 6-7 seconds to load what normally takes 1), you might just want to considered upgrading to a dedicated server which will give you a higher data transfer rate, which will speed up the page loads)

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That may be the case elsewhere, but the Dual Intel Xeon-Harpertown 5430-Quadcore servers VodaHost uses have unlimited Network Band share (dual quad) in addition to unlimited down-net band allowances (tolerated to 3000MBps), and up to 1000MBps uploads. If anything, page load speed is a User Connection or Computer OS configuration issue nowadays .... if you're not at VodaHost!

Back to the original question, though ... as said, it is not known what type of server or what bandwidth allowance this particular website was hosted on. San Jose is a major Metro Market (1,000,000+ households) and you would be surprised which "important" websites are still hosted on archaic equipment, and with hosts that are happy to maintain status quo rather than upgrade continually to retain clients.

server processors speed is more or less irrelevant to the network transfer speed (its bares more relevance to how long it takes to process a page request, get the data, and start to send back after the server receives the request).

Yes the servers are connected to (assuming the number are accurate) a 1000Mb up/3000 down connection, but were not talking about the relationship of the users download speed to the servers upload. (In this case yes the users connection will be the bottleneck in almost all cases).

What I am talking about is a limitation of the servers upload speed. There will be a limit on how much of that any given user can consume. Even at the maximum the server will allow a user to consume, uploading 24/7 all month, its not going to use more then X gigs of bandwidth (Can say for certain without knowing what the peak upload is). This is how "unlimited" bandwidth plans work. You are not going to get 5 terabytes of bandwidth out of a $7.95 shared hosting account.

The point I am making is probably irrelevant as if someone is using enough bandwidth to get close to this limit and not doing so by offering downloads of movies or music, then they will have tens of thousands of regular visitors on their website.

If someone has that many visitors they should not be using shared hosting and should have at least a virtual private server.

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Your reply is appreciated (and I'm not wishing to appear contentious), but again I have to point out it all goes back to the 5% Resources Rule .... which I explained in this post with a real-world example > http://www.vodahost.com/vodatalk/gen...tml#post306827
Yes???

Well were getting quite a bit off topic from the original post, also that post with your full example has been removed, but anyways.

First of all let me point out that its 3000 megabits/s not megabytes/s.

None the less, the server is going to divide the server user's allotted bandwidth usage per second and take advantage of burstable resources, before it just increased the transfer per second. (burstable resources being those that are shared among all the user accounts on the server)

Also on that note it won't be transferring the entire 125MB page the same second the request is made. That is unless your either making the request on the network internally, or if you have fast enough connection to download at 125MB/s, in which case even then the server would have to be configured to allow that size of a data transfer... Vodahost's shared hosting server's certainly won't be.


The point I was making in my previous post was simply that if an account needs more bandwidth then it could possibly get from having a constant download from the maximum allowance VH will give (and yes, assuming that doesn't exceed 5%, also assuming bandwidth is a resource including in this), then your site will run slow/be down. But if an account is even encroaching on this limit they far exceed the purpose of shared hosting and should have upgraded to a VPS or dedicated server long before the limit is reached.

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I get very fast connection too, but for me the main point is that Vasili helped me to understand what the real limits are for how I should build my pages and how I need to stay under the 5% rule. The rest of what you are talking about is beyond me!
Thanks to both of you for taking the time to play this out. ;)