Error 404

shabu · #1 08-09-2006, 09:00 PM

Hello again everyone,
I have managed to upload two of my six pages,but with the other 4 I keep getting this.....HTTP 404 Error
File Not Found.

I am so close,yet so far away.
Gary.

FPRob · #2 08-09-2006, 09:06 PM

It can only be one of two things Shabu.. Either the page isn't uploaded and the error is produced as a result of clicking a link to a page that doesnt exist on the server or...

The hyperlink is incorrect. For example... If you are linking to indxe.html (spelled incorrectly) rather than index.html (which will work fine).

Also, on this point of incorreect hyperlinks. If you have pages in different folders but are not linking into those folders then it would also be an incoprrect hyperlink for example. mypics.html (imaginary made up page name) might be in a folder called images but if the link doesnt say ............/images/mypics.html then the link wont work

shabu · #3 08-09-2006, 09:08 PM

Okay,thanks very much for that,I will go and see if I can remedy it right now.
Thanks Again,
Gary.

FPRob · #4 08-09-2006, 10:04 PM

No probs, leave another post if you have any more difficulty. We will get it working between us ;)

shabu · #5 08-09-2006, 10:34 PM

Hello,
I just do not understand what is going on,what am I doing wrong,and why are my first two pages linking up and my other four are not.
Thanks,
Gary.

Nite Producer · #6 08-09-2006, 10:37 PM

You've sent another thread about the same probleme, take a look there FFPRob and I posted the answer

FPRob · #7 08-09-2006, 10:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shabu

Hello,
I just do not understand what is going on,what am I doing wrong,and why are my first two pages linking up and my other four are not.
Thanks,
Gary.

Mate.. you might not be doing anything wrong. dont panic yet :) Try uploading those pages again to se what happens but before you do, test the hyperlinks in a preview to see if they work or not.

There is something else. another factor that might be coming into play. I am sorry to get technical but there isn't another way....

Once per day the servers will refresh. this doesn;t necessarily effect you pages as such but you will notice when buying web addresses etc that they might not work straight away. The same might happen when you buy hosting space. The servers refresh automatically and sometimes it really is worth waiting for a short while to seeif the problem corrects itself.

To be truthful. I doubt if this is the problem but it definitely is worth being patient with technical issues and just seeing what happens.

;)

Nite Producer · #8 08-09-2006, 10:49 PM

to this thread the following is already mentioned there

First what we've said is name your page without the ('), not in your link, you give your link the url without ('), try to verify the name of your pages and check if you gave the link the right name.

Ah, by the way, you publish all your pages in public_html or in the subfolder in public_html let's explain:

If you publish directly to public_html the url should be www.yoursite.com/yourpage.html

If you create a subfolder let's name it Folder1, the url should be www.yoursite.com/folder1/yourpage.html

shabu · #9 08-09-2006, 11:09 PM

Alright guys,
All my pages are in the public_html folder as I publish them.They are all named as you have mentioned above,the only thing I can think of is that the name of the page differs from the name at the end of the www.yoursite.com/yourpage.html
Say I have my contact page,I have named it as such www.rememberme4ever.com/Contact.html and when I am naming the page,I write it all in small case letters,would I be better off writing the page in small case letters aswell,for example www.rememberme4ever.com/contact.html
Cheers,
Gary.

shabu · #10 08-09-2006, 11:13 PM

I noticed that all pages are good when I preview them.They preview very well.
Gary

islandcrazy · #11 08-09-2006, 11:16 PM

i believe everything must be in lower case letters.

FPRob · #12 08-09-2006, 11:19 PM

lower case letter does help but if you use uppercase it shouldn't make any difference to the pages actually being found as long as the hyperlinks are also in uppercase. Lower case is more of a programmers little pet than anything.

A good point though IslandCrazy .... It is definitely good to make sure your links are identical to your page names.

I have to log out, got a bit of work that just came in but.. I will come back to this as soon as I can. Im not abandoning the problem Shabu :)

Nite Producer · #13 08-09-2006, 11:22 PM

do you use Blue Voda?

shabu · #14 08-09-2006, 11:22 PM

Thanks,I will still be working with this,probably into tomorrow anyway.
Talk to you soon,and have a great day.
Gary.

Vasili · #15 08-09-2006, 11:34 PM

(Your page is not being "found" due to improper "naming")

To better understand how to solve this issue simply, go through the tutorials on proper page titles and linking once again.

Getting partial solutions from many directions can be confusing!

shabu · #16 08-10-2006, 12:11 AM

Hi Vasili,
I have looked and it seems that I have named my pages right,or so I think.
Could you give me an explanation as to how you think I have not named them correctly.
Sorry to sound so blunt.They are named as so,
index.html
contact.html
register.html
faqs.html
people.html
people1.html
Is this not the right way to name the pages.
Hope to hear from you soon,
Gary.

shabu · #17 08-10-2006, 12:12 AM

Just to make sure,I watched the video tutorials twice over again.

Nite Producer · #18 08-10-2006, 12:15 AM

when you gave the Navigation bar the url make sure you put the url like the following:

www.yoursite.com/yourpage.html

or if it's in a subfolder

www.yoursite.com/subfolder/yourpage.html

I'm sure it's just the url given the probleme

shabu · #19 08-10-2006, 12:58 AM

Hi Nite Producer,I have given everything inside the NAV bar like this
www.rememberme4ever.net/index.html
www.rememberme4ever.net/contact.html
www.rememberme4ever.net/register.html
www.rememberme4ever.net/faqs.html
www.rememberme4ever.net/people.html
www.rememberme4ever.net/people1.html

This would appear to be the right way,or do I have to give the actual
whole Navigation Bar a url aswell.
Thanks,
Gary.

Vasili · #20 08-10-2006, 01:02 AM

"Naming" (titling) your pages in BV (in Page Properties) does include the URL: MySite.com

"Saving" pages in BV is done without any extension added by you, as it is automatically saved as ".bvp"

"Linking" pages in BV, either via the hyperlink tool or in Button Properties requires extensions to be added also, i.e. to link from your index page to your Contact page you would enter: www.mysite.com/contact_us.html

"Publishing" your BV pages is quite simple, as you first Save your properly named page, then using PUBLISH, you add nothing to the Publish Dialog box....it is done automatically > enter nothing at public_html/

If these steps are solid, then it might be a DNS error. Be sure that you have correctly "pointed" you domain hosted elsewhere to your VH account, and that the account is properly configured.

If this is being published to a sub-domain, check that you have set it up properly in your CP, and the pagfes are being published to this directory when using BV: public_html/subdomainname

Vasili · #21 08-10-2006, 01:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shabu

Hi Nite Producer,I have given everything inside the NAV bar like this
www.rememberme4ever.net/index.html
www.rememberme4ever.net/contact.html
www.rememberme4ever.net/register.html
www.rememberme4ever.net/faqs.html
www.rememberme4ever.net/people.html
www.rememberme4ever.net/people1.html

This would appear to be the right way,or do I have to give the actual
whole Navigation Bar a url aswell.
Thanks,
Gary.

Looks good from here, Gary. BUT...you DO have the http:// in front of these addresses, don't you? (http://www.rememberme4ever.net/index.html)
It's easy to accidentally "erase" them when blazing through the hyper tool.
If so, double check to be sure each page is similarly named in BV, then start looking at the DNS aspect.

shabu · #22 08-10-2006, 01:14 AM

What do I have to look for in the DNS aspect,I just do not understand why I get two pages but none of the rest.
Anyway,thanks so much guys,and god bless you all.
Gary.

FPRob · #23 08-10-2006, 01:16 AM

OK this is good, i am learning something good here. Vasili, am I correct in saying then that names of pages have to be specific to BlueVoda requirements rather than being able to name then as 'a person' sees fit?

I use FrontPage where of course you can use any names under the sun.

Vasili · #24 08-10-2006, 01:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shabu

Hi Nite Producer,I have given everything inside the NAV bar like this
www.rememberme4ever.net/index.html
www.rememberme4ever.net/contact.html
www.rememberme4ever.net/register.html
www.rememberme4ever.net/faqs.html
www.rememberme4ever.net/people.html
www.rememberme4ever.net/people1.html

This would appear to be the right way,or do I have to give the actual
whole Navigation Bar a url aswell.
Thanks,
Gary.

Everything looks good from here, Gary....BUT, you DO have the http:// in front of these addresses, don't you? ( http://www.rememberme4ever.net/index.html ) Without it, there is no command action specified, and it won't work.
It's easy to accidentally "erase" it when blazing through the hyper tool....

Vasili · #25 08-10-2006, 01:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FPRob

OK this is good, i am learning something good here. Vasili, am I correct in saying then that names of pages have to be specific to BlueVoda requirements rather than being able to name then as 'a person' sees fit?

I use FrontPage where of course you can use any names under the sun.

No......

I just presented the "rules" simply, in order, so he could analyze by method.
The only "requirement for BV naming" is the Main Page be index and the common rest applies (use underscore instead of spaces, no symbols, lower case, etc.)
And like in everything else, the freaking details are a must....(it's what I get hung up myself)!

shabu · #26 08-10-2006, 01:31 AM

Yes Vasili,
I have the http:// in front of all the addresses as i am naming them.

Vasili · #27 08-10-2006, 01:40 AM

Leprechauns! That's the cause!
Or...trolls! The miserable creatures!

Oh, I don't know Gary...I can't see clearly enough from here. If everything is according to Hoyle as far as naming, saving, title, full links....and 2 of say 6 present, then I say someone is sitting on the Magic button here in VodaLand!

I would probably be spending hours unecessarily comparing/anyalyzing the differences between a page that works and one that doesn't, hoping to find a comma instead of a period (that one had me tied up for a whole day on 4 pages until I could SEE it!!) or a missing letter, or where I thought I had put an underscore it was missing -- something.....

VodaHost · #28 08-10-2006, 01:45 AM

1) rememberme4ever.net does not have its name servers configed. Please update your name servers.

http://whois.domaintools.com/rememberme4ever.net

2) Please do not ask for help again without identifying your self in your first post. We clearly asked you to do this when you started this thread.

http://www.vodahost.com/vodatalk/gen...ssistance.html

If you would have identified yourself, we would have solved you issue a lot faster. We would have been able to do a Whois search.

shabu · #29 08-10-2006, 01:54 AM

Well,could you please tell me how to configure my DNS servers,or update them please.
I am new to this and not sure about DNS Servers,or how to update or configure them.
I did just spend $95.40 on this and hopefully,all going well,I hope to spend a lot more,and I am really sorry for not identyfying myself in my first post,but I am doing so now.
Thanks,
Gary Buchan(a.k.a SHABU)

VodaHost · #30 08-10-2006, 01:58 AM

No worries mate, I just configed them for you, please allow 12-24 hours for them to propogate.

shabu · #31 08-10-2006, 02:01 AM

Thankyou so much,I really appreciate that,very kind of you.
What I don't understand is,why was I seeing two of my pages out of the six when I typed the site name into the address bar.
Cheers,
Gary.

VodaHost · #32 08-10-2006, 02:11 AM

Please be kind enough to provide (IDENTIFY) the exact links "PAGES" you are talking about so I can visit them.

shabu · #33 08-10-2006, 02:25 AM

http://www.rememberme4ever.net/register.html
http://www.rememberme4ever.net/faqs.html
http://www.rememberme4ever.net/people.html
http://www.rememberme4ever.net/people.html

The above are the four which were not showing at all,the other two were fine.
Thanks,
Gary.

FPRob · #34 08-10-2006, 03:45 AM

I think the bottom link in the last post is acutally ..... people1.html

Dont worry Shabu, everybody is on the case now hehehehe

FPRob · #35 08-10-2006, 03:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vasili

No......

I just presented the "rules" simply, in order, so he could analyze by method.
The only "requirement for BV naming" is the Main Page be index and the common rest applies (use underscore instead of spaces, no symbols, lower case, etc.)
And like in everything else, the freaking details are a must....(it's what I get hung up myself)!

gotcha.. yes the thing abou tthe main page being caled index is a common thing. Just an internet thing not specific to BV.

thanks for the tips :)

Vasili · #36 08-10-2006, 05:09 AM

lol, Bro!
(amazing how I hit all the bases way back in post # 20, which would have solved much earlier)
I keep forgetting how excited we become when creating our online dream!

FPRob · #37 08-10-2006, 02:06 PM

Haha yes, it's all true, all of it :)

shabu · #38 08-10-2006, 03:47 PM

Thanks for all the help guys,I am waiting patiently for the rest of my site to upload to the Internet,it has been 13 hours since 'Vodahost' posted his last reply,and hopefully I will have no more than 10-11 hours to wait for the other pages to upload.
Thanks again,
Gary.

FPRob · #39 08-10-2006, 04:01 PM

Your pages are uploaded already Shabu (if you have published them of course). It is just a case of waiting for the servers to refresh. Hopefully the problem will then be solved YAAAAAY

;)

shabu · #40 08-10-2006, 04:07 PM

Thanks fprob,yes,I know,that waiting game.....12-24 hours seems like a long time.
Is this normal for the servers to refresh.
Thanks,
Gary(a.k.a Shabu)

FPRob · #41 08-10-2006, 04:12 PM

Yep. Its a normal thing. It doesnt matter how big or small your site is and it doesn't matter which host you use. Its normal.

And yep you are right LOL, Personally... I learned patience through web design hahaha. A nice side effect it has to be said :)

shabu · #42 08-10-2006, 06:01 PM

Yep,they always say,patience is a virtue,seldom in a woman,but,never in a man......and so true that is,I have no patience,lol.
But as you said,patience is something you have to learn in this business,by the way,what did you think of the site.
And how many sites would I be allowed to upload,I guess the answer would be obvious,'It depends on how much money I am prepared to spend'.
Cheers,
Gary.(a.k.a.Shabu)

shabu · #43 08-10-2006, 08:56 PM

Do I/will I have to re-publish my pages to see if the server is picking them up at all,or just wait.
There is only 5 hours left before the 24 hours are up.
How many times is too many for publishing the pages.
Gary.

FPRob · #44 08-10-2006, 09:01 PM

To be honest, 24 hours is the specified time but it is not a strict timescale. I would maybe be expecting it to be working now although please don;t take that as gospel.

You can upload as many sites as you like as long as you buy the www.domainnames :)

I think a staff member needs to have another look at your page uploading problem Gary but I am sure the VH will see this thread again before long.

Please dont worry yet mate.

Vasili · #45 08-10-2006, 09:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shabu

How many times is too many for publishing the pages.
Gary.

I have come to believe you know you have spent too much time tweaking and publishing when you notice you can't see the keyboard anymore, you beard finally growing over the whole thing......

LOL

You can re-publish pages until the cows come home, if you want - there is no limit!

shabu · #46 08-10-2006, 11:29 PM

Hello Again Vasili and FPRob,
Yes,thanks again guys,I am just going to check it out again,It was VH who set up my DNS Server settings,and for that I am truly grateful.
Thanks,
Gary(a.k.a. Shabu)

shabu · #47 08-10-2006, 11:50 PM

Well,this is almost into the 23rd hour,and still I only have 2 pages which are viewable to me.
I am so sorry if I am going on but I am so frustrated,I want to see how this site will do before I decide to go ahead with another one or not,as the case may be.
I know patience is a virtue,but it is definately a virtue I was born without.
Gary(a.k.a. Shabu)

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