Thread: blog, text on page, pdf?

Hi folks,
Another very very green newbie here. First thanks to all the very generous members contributing here. I'm trying to do a lot of homework.
I'll put my questions in a numbered list here:

1. I would like to put a novel on my site in installments. I'm wondering the best way to do that and add chapters on a weekly basis.

2. Is there a way that people would not be able to copy and print it? Read only?

3. I'm wondering if I just write articles on an article page, then have a contact page where people could write and critique an article or the novel, or would it be better to have a blog?

4. I've studied naval's article on the fixed menu that could be added to each page. Is it important to do it with css or is it ok to do it from the web building tools here. I'm paying attention to SE for the future.

Ok, appreciate advice. I don't want to go 40 miles down a dead end and start over if it can be avoided.

Peace to all, Shoemaker

Hi Shoemaker

First of all.........welcome to the voda family.

Its good that you are looking for a plan and that you are doing some homework.....thats a good start.

If you do (1)
then (2) is going to be the problem.

You could publish some interesting/juicy extracts from each chapter each week and then let readers download a protected pdf file.

Result: (1) and (2) resolved, or at least one posible solution.

(3) Why not do both and get the best of both worlds......changing content is what the SEO's are looking for.

(4) Start with the tools available and learn as you go along.....after all, you did say, one chapter per week.......so not that many pages will need to be changed in 4 to six weeks of learning new tips and tricks.

Good luck and I look forward to your 1st instalment..............lol

Hi, an article in instalments is a good thing for a site & will help with the SE’s with an updated area every week.

As for stopping visitors from coping, it’s not an easy thing to do because of the nature of the web being open to all. There is book software out there that has a lot of things built in to help with fraud, but there will nearly always be a way around it.

A blog is a good idea for this type of thing, or if you are thinking of a few books or articles? Possibly having a forum for views & chats about each item. You could even use a forum for your work.

Navals php method is very handy & will save lots of time if your site becomes larger. If you do use this? It can be handy to split your pages into 3 php areas (Top/side/footer) & a center area for each page. It will save time at a latter date.


Ah! Davids got here 1st.


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Hi chris..........dosnt matter who was first........good comments as usual.

Muchisimus gracias to general David (i used to have a farm in canary islands) and thanks alot to general Chris:

I'll begin with David:

There's a published mystery writer named J.A. Konrath (very generous with advice) who put several chapters of one of his books on his site in pdf. Also here I saw Carbon Terry put his newbies tips on pdf., then I saw Beth put her SE tips on pdf. Is there a compelling reason for this?

I'm thinking of giving the novel away for the first run through. Then putting a clamp on it for pay per view, if I'm not laughed off the continent first. So . . . if I put it in text on pages in installments is that just as good as pdf? If I did that I'd want to put naval's menu into effect to prevent nervous breakdown I'd think.

So, the above addressed Chris also. Both of you helped with good SE tips. Chris, perhaps I might put the story in regular text on page, then use a blog for my notes, articles, and feedback from readers? When you're a first time novelist (I do get read alot on writersdigest.com) you're sticking your neck out, especially when writing in the mystic, and it's necessary to filter some comments. That is possible in blog format, right?

OK, generals, thanks again from sad sack beetle bailey on kp.

Hi again Chris,

Putting Naval's technique into action is a daunting look down from a high dive for a first-timer.

You said:

Naval's php method is very handy & will save lots of time if your site becomes larger. If you do use this? It can be handy to split your pages into 3 php areas (Top/side/footer) & a center area for each page. It will save time at a latter date.

OK, I'm very careful with your time. Shall I'll put the different areas on one php menu page or should I make different pages for each area?

As you suggested, I'm going to leave the css until later when I'm more experienced.

Thanks again, Shoemaker

Answers in red...............

Originally Posted by shoemaker

Muchisimus gracias to general David (i used to have a farm in canary islands) and thanks alot to general Chris:

I'll begin with David:

I saw Carbon Terry put his newbies tips on pdf., then I saw Beth put her SE tips on pdf. Is there a compelling reason for this?

yes, if its on a pdf then readers can download it themselves and its not published. PDF's can also be protected from copying or changing the content. can be used at your pay for view stage......

I'm thinking of giving the novel away for the first run through. Then putting a clamp on it for pay per view, if I'm not laughed off the continent first. So . . . if I put it in text on pages in installments is that just as good as pdf?

If your giving the first novel away then publish it as text, you can then remove those pages from the web at your 2nd stage.



If I did that I'd want to put naval's menu into effect to prevent nervous breakdown I'd think.

Think about how many chapters you are going to write and then decide whether to invest your time with navals menu ideas..........

David,

Very clear answers. Keepers for sure.

Your third point. The book is 76,000 words, about 175 pages in a hard copy. Could I make my pages on my site, what 1200 long? I wonder the best way to go about this logistically.

Thanks again, ****

1200 long is not very long especially if you catch the readers interest.(could be more....)

You dont have to write it all at once either...you can write several paragraphs in a single text box etc and then be able to move them around.

When you come to stage 2, then removing them from the web would be quick and simple AND you still have the original manuscript/pages on your computer.....

David, Excellent, sir!

Now, Would I just copy the portion I want to publish from a word processor document like Office Word, or Works Word, or (here's a dilly) Pages, which is a Mac word processor, then paste the section onto my page in my voda site? Or do I use a text editing program?

Peace, ****

P.S. If a page on my site can be quite long, that means I could put fifteen or twenty hard copy length pages on one of my voda site pages, right? That simplifies a lot if it's the case. Then I wouldn't 'absolutely' have to use Naval's php technique in my menu because I would not have more than about fifteen or twenty pages. But then, maybe I should use Naval's technique anyway. The light can shine even for a dumby like me, sometimes.

If you just copy from a word proccessor then you will have problems......

Use a text program like notepad.........

Just bear in mind that the longer the page, the longer it will take to load.

If it takes longer than 3 or 4 seconds to load, your reader has gone.......

I would advise taking the time to use naval tip as it should save time in the long run....and once learnt, is reusable in the future.

Dont forget that you could use a word on a page that would link the reader to the next page anyway
i.e. next page and/or last page....just like reading a book heh.......lol

lookup "top of page" and "book markers" as well...they could come in handy.

have fun

If you are going to publish your work on your website and you don't want viewers to quickly copy your work ... and you just want it for read only purposes .. create your work in word documents and convert to pdf using the free pdf converter.

You would then upload your pdf's via the ftp method

Tools - ftp manager - connect using your same passwords .. find your document, slide it into the correct directory and then link to it using the directory and name of document .. e.g. www.mydomain.com/nameofpdf.pdf

You can then apply links to your page for any documents you upload in this manner.

It's a good idea to name your pdfs the nature of the document .. being careful to exactly link to this in the same way .. all small letters, no spaces unless words are joined together by the use of the _ underscore symbol.

Just a thought on people printing without your permission. If you post your pages as white letters on black background very few people will want to print them.

Tom

David, again point by point, excellent.

David said:

Dont forget that you could use a word on a page that would link the reader to the next page anyway
i.e. next page and/or last page....just like reading a book heh.......lol

Now, I don't want to get on nerves for asking too much, but it's provocative. Please just ignore if you've had enough.

David's above comment makes me think that I'd like to have a simple menu on the home page, like four buttons, or so. One would say 'enter story' then there would be internal links like the page numbers at the bottom of the forum pages here. Am I on the right track? Thanks again David.

Hi Lady Eye,

Thanks for taking the time here. It sounds exactly like I want to do. I must study up on ftp method which I haven't heard of yet. I'll do it. I'm contemplating closely all that you said. Thanks.

Tom Finley, good imput. In long documents one must pay attention to the strain on the reader's eyes. Seriph fonts and light backgrounds is what the experienced ones say alot. Peace.

Hi, have a look at this site
If you want send me your email address via my site or post it here & i can send you the BV pages that made this page up to give you some ideas & a start on naval's php method if your not quite sure.

Hi chris,

I copied that page so it's in my files now. Just before I read your reply here I was studying navaldesigns page on php. It's pretty clear to me. Tomorrow I'll actually do the menu and download the pdf program from the generous Eye. I'm on dial up in Sweden and ouch! it costs. Tomorrow I'll go to library and have my free wireless. Chris, my e-mail is feufolletgem********.com

Please put a title on the message to give me a hint of what it's about. Bad guys have been after me before.

Peace and thanks to all of you helping here.

Chris, I didn't see a PM box around here. I noticed part of my e-mail address is blocked out. Let me know here if what you're going to send me is the same as naval design's five point php creator or if it's something else. I'll keep my eye open here.

Its the one in this link.
The php page wont copy correctly into BV via the web.

OK Chris, That's the page I already have and am using to study. Thanks for all your effort. You guys are champs. S

Rather than retype what someone has said in a precious post, just select that post and click on the "quote" icon below each post.

This will then load the text into the message box.................
you can then add your own message.
have fun

Because of David, Chris, Lady Eye, and Naval Design (others will be thanked again down the line), I've achieved a few accomplishments today, and have a few more questions.

Accomplishments:

1. I downloaded the free pdf converter and seem to understand the instruction manual. I think I'm going to use this to publish installments of the novel to my voda site. Instead of using text pages from the beginning, like David suggested, I could just use pdf from the beginning, not allowing copying or printing, then in future only do a pay per view if that were warrented. Make sense?

Question: I won't worry about page links for each page of the novel on my homepage text menu, correct? On the pdf I'll just have a text menu box linking back to the home, blog, and contact pages, correct? On the pdf should I have a text menu box on each page, or just at the top of the first page?

2. I think I have successfully created Navaldesign's php menu. Since I can't test it accurately until I'm published on the web I'd just like to ask a few questions about my accuracy.

Q. Is it possible to have double spacing between the four text menu items in my menu bar? Just cosmetics.

Q. I made the address of each menu item like so: http://www.electmagi.com/home.html
should that address have been 'index instead of home? Is the html on the address correct instead of php? I saved the menu page as php.

Q. Navaldesign did not say how to put a html box on the page where the menu bar is going to be. I don't know how to make that.

OK, I'm back to work. Thanks again to all. Shoemaker

Really thanks again to you guys. One mistake, though. I don't advise making me even a pfc, no how, no way.

Answers in red as usual.............

Originally Posted by shoemaker

Because of David, Chris, Lady Eye, and Naval Design (others will be thanked again down the line), I've achieved a few accomplishments today, and have a few more questions.

Accomplishments:

1. I downloaded the free pdf converter and seem to understand the instruction manual. I think I'm going to use this to publish installments of the novel to my voda site. Instead of using text pages from the beginning, like David suggested, I could just use pdf from the beginning, not allowing copying or printing, then in future only do a pay per view if that were warrented. Make sense?

Makes perfect sense, but you had to look at alternatives before you could decide which way was best for you................


Question: I won't worry about page links for each page of the novel on my homepage text menu, correct? On the pdf I'll just have a text menu box linking back to the home, blog, and contact pages, correct? On the pdf should I have a text menu box on each page, or just at the top of the first page?

A pdf is a stand alone, downloadable file, which can be added to week by week............
Readers can then download the latest issue of the updated pdf, so you can either have several/chapter pdf's or a single updatable pdf.
The single pdf will obviate the need to have any links within your pdf unless
you use the tips that I gave you earlier...page Nos, top of page, next page, previous page, content textual link, etc, etc.........You should include a link back to your home page as often as posible.
(remember that the reader will be reading your book ON their computer.)


2. I think I have successfully created Navaldesign's php menu. Since I can't test it accurately until I'm published on the web I'd just like to ask a few questions about my accuracy.

You CAN test this out by creating an "Under Construction" page(no links)
and publishing those 3/4 items..........

Q. Is it possible to have double spacing between the four text menu items in my menu bar? Just cosmetics.

Q. I made the address of each menu item like so: http://www.electmagi.com/home.html

This should just be http://www.electmagi.com for your home page.....this is your root/index/home page



should that address have been 'index instead of home? Is the html on the address correct instead of php? I saved the menu page as php.

you save your first content page as index (nothing else)
and that becomes your home page(http://www.electmagi.com)
The other 3 pages, menu, header and footer should be published as php.

Q. Navaldesign did not say how to put a html box on the page where the menu bar is going to be. I don't know how to make that.

select the html box
(top left side icon)
double click to open
copy the code into the html box
size and position the box as required

OK, I'm back to work. Thanks again to all. Shoemaker

Originally Posted by davidundalicia

Answers in red as usual.............

David, another great report. Getting my title and name correct I'm still drilling, getting the confusion cobwebs out. I'll keep going over all of it.

Once more, can I put more spacing between the menu items or should I just leave it as is?

Is my protocol correct to continue elaborating on this thread, or should I be starting new threads in different sections? Just want to do it right.

Thanks for all.

Depends on which menu type you use, play around and see what you like best........

Try to open a new thread with a new question in the appropiate section.

see forum jump box at the bottom of this page for a complete list of forums.

Hi Shoemaker

Is it possible to have double spacing between the four text menu items in my menu bar? Just cosmetics.

Is your menu bar horizontal? Just hit your spacebar once or twice before you type in the name of your menu item. (in the menu properties)

I have a question for you - how did you manage to write over 70,000 words!! Well done!
I have a 'book' that seemed to take forever just to get it to 40,000. Getting the next 30 or 40 thousands words written seems an impossibility!

Hi Sun Chaser,

My menu bar is text (because SE's like it) and it's vertical, to be placed at side of page. I'll fool around with what you said and see if I can get spacing. Thanks.

Oh boy!, on writing. I hope the high command here doesn't mind if I give you a little bla bla on writing here. Somerset-Maugham said there are three ways to write a novel. Then he said that unfortunately no one knows what they are.

I write on a thread over at writersdigest.com in their forum. Get to the forum then the fifth catagory down is called 'tips and advice'. click that. The thread is called 'plot and structure for novelists'. The starter is 'cooltouch'. The thread is four pages long. My handle is 'willy shoemaker'.
The question of the thread is whether it's better to use an outline to plan a novel or should one go about it more 'right brain' intuitively, like 'touched by the muse'. You'll find both ideas on the thread. I start writing on page 2. It's the only thread on the site that has generated more than 13,000 hits. Nothing comes near it. I'm happy to talk more with you on writing. Leave a message here if you want. I still haven't found the pm box. If I do I'll send you my e-mail address.

Break a leg, Shoemaker

P.S. I look at a web site and the content that goes into it like a gem stone. It's structured with precision (mainly the mechanics) but the poetics, design, art, can be magic and crazy as radiance.

The PM box has just found you...............lol

Hi David, and thanks for the message. I clicked on the button that says accept, but I didn't do anything else. Hope that was sufficient.

Today I accomplished getting my blog set up at WordPress. Each day in my three hours of free wireless I re-watch the videos. Cramming.

So I can make a form page for my contact, a blog page for my articles, and a story page to link to my novel, but I won't test any of them until I activate my account right? Or did I get that answered already? Scratches head.

Grunts!

Yes you must open an account before you can publish.....

That could take 2 or 3 days, so build that into your plans.

BTW: you seem to be coming on very well.............go for it.

Hi David,

I was just reviewing my pages, and I'm a little confused. Yesterday I implemented Navaldesign's php material. The home page I created which will be the index, with the test menu bar on it, now has the title 'menu' on the properties page. But when the page is showing on my screen, up in the left corner it's listed as index. Now I don't know where to go to see how I named each page with the URL's. I have the html page called menu with just the menu in it and nothing else, then I have a myfooter page done the same way. I've got to make sure all my addressing is correct, so this is what I'm stuck on now. How do I find the names, not the titles? thanks.

Charlie
When you open a page in BV
do some work
then save it..............the name that you saved it under is your page url.

When you go into page properties and give it a title, that is for the seo's and which will appear at the top of your browser.

OK, maybe I figured it out. On my menu page it's correct to have the name of each menu item in caps if I want because that's what we see on the page. When I name each page that's when I don't use caps and the home page should be named index not anything else. The title can be what I want with caps because that's what we see on the page.

The index page URL should be http://www.electmagi.com

The sub pages should be addressed like:
http://www.electmagi.com/contact.html

And last for here: The title of the pages should be concise and very relevant to the page content. I'm following carbon terry here.

Here's what's important to me to get right: my website is called electmagi.com because that's what I could get. The name of the novel is ELECT. So could I title the home page 'ELECT by J W Shoemaker' or 'ELECT a novel by J W Shoemaker'. I know a million folks aren't going to rush over because of that, but is it a relevant title to the index/home page if I'm willing to begin generating traffic?

Thanks for the patience.

Hi Shoemaker

If your menu is vertical, the spacing I mentioned won't work. If it's only 4 items, could you just have 4 separate links, and not use the text menu?
That way you can space the items out as you want.

Thanks for the writing website URL - will check them out for sure!

Hi

Originally Posted by shoemaker

OK, maybe I figured it out. On my menu page it's correct to have the name of each menu item in caps if I want because that's what we see on the page. When I name each page that's when I don't use caps and the home page should be named index not anything else. The title can be what I want with caps because that's what we see on the page.

The index page URL should be http://www.electmagi.com Correct

The sub pages should be addressed like:
http://www.electmagi.com/contact.html
Correct[/B]


And last for here: The title of the pages should be concise and very relevant to the page content. I'm following carbon terry here.

Here's what's important to me to get right: my website is called electmagi.com because that's what I could get. The name of the novel is ELECT. So could I title the home page 'ELECT by J W Shoemaker' or 'ELECT a novel by J W Shoemaker'.
you could, but the only relevent word is NOVEL
readers do not know your name or your title.........

3 things to concentrate on for the seo's
keywords (page content)
title (should contain some keywords)
page description (should contain your title plus)

all 3 should be relevent to each other i.e content


I know a million folks aren't going to rush over because of that, but is it a relevant title to the index/home page if I'm willing to begin generating traffic?

Thanks for the patience.

your welcome......

Greetings to the members,

Yesterday I was out of circulation because I'm sure I was behind the eight ball on 8/8/08. It's an old story with me and I just ride out the storm. 13's are ok with me.

So yesterday I had a nightmare with pdf's. I don't have to detail it all because I finally got it resolved today. The pdf 995 I had to remove from my machine because it was hanging up my printer spool or something like that. They had a form for me to fill out with a call center and e-mail because they seem to come up with this problem often. I can't deal with that when I'm so fragile with all the other stuff I have to learn getting this site up. It would take me over the top.

I had gone to 995 because Primo pdf didn't load correctly on the machine, then wouldn't allow me to uninstall the program or to download it again until the incorrect installation was uninstalled. Catch 22.

I think it was worth putting the above here for other neophytes. The gist is that by shutting down then re-booting I finally could uninstall both programs, then re-install Primo (thanks again Lady Eyes) and now all is fine and dandy.

Sunchaser, I'm going to do what you suggested about adding each button separately. It will be a bit more work but the exercise should be worth it. Thanks. I'm going over several articles on your site. Cool.

Hi David. On the second 'correct' you have a [/b]. Was that supposed to indicate something I didn't get?

More importantly, your advice on key words is quite valuable to me. Since the title is ELECT I'll have to tie that in with key words and page description. I'm putting a short paragraph on the home page describing what the novel is about, chucked full of as many key words as I can come up with without sounding like a dumb-bell if that's possible. I'll re-figure that in page description. I suppose if I keep paying attention the meta-tag and key word department it will continue to improve and I can edit the pages accordingly. Thanks again and . . . nice boat.

Chris, Your lesson on configuring the html and menues is right there in front of me. Peace!

Originally Posted by shoemaker

Greetings to the members,

Hi David. On the second 'correct' you have a [/b]. Was that supposed to indicate something I didn't get?

Ignore that.....it was the end of a make "bold" html statement.

More importantly, your advice on key words is quite valuable to me. Since the title is ELECT I'll have to tie that in with key words and page description. I'm putting a short paragraph on the home page describing what the novel is about, chucked full of as many key words as I can come up with without sounding like a dumb-bell if that's possible. I'll re-figure that in page description. I suppose if I keep paying attention the meta-tag and key word department it will continue to improve and I can edit the pages accordingly. Thanks again and . . . nice boat.

Its better to have 3 or 4 major keywords (contained in your content) rather than try to chuck in as many as you can.

Think about how a potential reader would be looking for(searching-entering) the type of content that your site would contain.

You could use some of your other keywords (3 or 4) on another page to get that page listed as well, but under a different title.

Charlie
Will your book contain any photos or diagrams ?¿

Hey David, Where'd you get Charlie? Not that I mind. Charles Stewart gave us Drambouie; Chaplin gave us 'Smile when your heart is breaking'; so I'll be Charlie.

No pictures in the novel. Straight text . . . or strange text, I should say. I don't know who's going to be searching for Elect, Magi, alchemy, mystic, Romany gypsy, Grail, Philosopher's Stone, Keplar, Machiavelli, I Ching, Horus, Apollo, Hermes Trismagistus, The Threefold Goddess, the Holy Office or Inquisition, witchcraft, evil eye, Phoenix, troubadours, Crusades, druids, Stonehenge, New Grange, etc., but it'll be a trip finding out.

Each thing you help me with goes into a sirius (oops, that's the dog star) serious folder on keystone, I mean key words, and metaphysics, I mean meta-tags, etc. Much obliged

Sorry charlie.........oops(not charlie)

Usually I am 100% on names, looks like that has dropped to 99%........lol

OK, now I created my NOTES page, which is like articles, or sort of in the blog department.

David, I'm not trying to bend your ear too much, just putting these next questions out there.

1. I'm going to put each text menu element separate instead of in a bar, like Sunchaser suggested. On my NOTES page I'd like to have the menu item/hyperlink for HOME say BACK TO HOME. Is that OK or should I just put HOME?

2. I wrote a COMMNENTS page today following the template then changing it around some. Will it be OK if I just have the COMMNENTS text box with neither my nor the commentator's e-mail address showing? Today I created a new gmail account where the comments will go to. So I will see the sender's handle and e-mail address in my inbox and that takes care of being able to respond to them, right?

3. Is it good to put those swirly letters that the user has to type in a box to avoid a lot of spam?

Thanks fellow users, from Charlie

1) HOME
2) mail programs require a from or it will get bounced
3) Yes

got to dash now, catch you later.............charlie.

Hi Team,

So now I'm studying hyperlinking without using one of the menu bars from the tutorials.
My exercise is this:

I've created a NOTES page and a COMMENTS page. I'm thinking of just having one menu button on each of these pages (my site only has four pages since the novel will be on pdf and there won't be a button for each of the pages on that). So to hyperlink to HOME from any page with only a HOME menu button on it I will do this: Select the menu button and highlight it. Click the hyperlink button in the upper right side of the screen. Type in the address of the HOME page, which would be http://www.electmagi.com/index.html and now I have a functioning hyperlink to the HOME page from any page on the site. Right? Also, I'm still confused whether I type the .html in or is that automatically inserted by the program.

Another question relating to David's affirmative answer concerning the wavey letters that a user would have to type in to place a comment (in order to help eliminate spam). How do I insert that wavey-gravey program?

And . . . whenever I want a website I never type in http://, I just do www. or not even that. Will my site require the whole enchilada or normal shortcuts will do?

Thanks mates, Charlie

Originally Posted by shoemaker

Hi Team,

So now I'm studying hyperlinking without using one of the menu bars from the tutorials.
My exercise is this:

I've created a NOTES page and a COMMENTS page. I'm thinking of just having one menu button on each of these pages (my site only has four pages since the novel will be on pdf and there won't be a button for each of the pages on that). So to hyperlink to HOME from any page with only a HOME menu button on it I will do this: Select the menu button and highlight it. Click the hyperlink button in the upper right side of the screen. Type in the address of the HOME page, which would be http://www.electmagi.com/index.html and now I have a functioning hyperlink to the HOME page from any page on the site. Right? Also, I'm still confused whether I type the .html in or is that automatically inserted by the program.

Another question relating to David's affirmative answer concerning the wavey letters that a user would have to type in to place a comment (in order to help eliminate spam). How do I insert that wavey-gravey program?

And . . . whenever I want a website I never type in http://, I just do www. or not even that. Will my site require the whole enchilada or normal shortcuts will do?

Thanks mates, Charlie

Hi Charlie ..yes, include the http://www. with all links you create, it's the way the browsers read them, standard on the internet .. so yes, no shortcuts .. always use the full url ...

Include the .html in a url with all your pages with the exception of the index page .. for the index page you only type http://www.yourdomain.com .. no page name .. no .html - all other pages need their name and their file extension which is .html

Your technique of linking is correct, however a few things here ..

1. Since your pdf does open as it's own document, outside of your website, go back to this link you have applied for your pdf and set the target to _blank ... setting the target for this link to _blank will allow the pdf document to open another browser window for the user, so that when they close the window your website is still there on another window. This is a good idea to use for any links that take the user off of your website, as does a pdf document, or a link to a friends website, etc.

2. Even though your website is small at the moment, it is a good idea to have continuity throughout your website with your menu navigation. It's best is the menu to navigate your website is in a standard position on every page .. allowing viewers to navigate to every page from every page ... and this menu should appear in the same area on your page too.

Originally Posted by shoemaker

Another question relating to David's affirmative answer concerning the wavey letters that a user would have to type in to place a comment (in order to help eliminate spam). How do I insert that wavey-gravey program?

It's called CAPTCHA ... and you can both learn more and find the sources in this thread (just read slow and try to apply the technique to your application) >> http://www.vodahost.com/vodatalk/start-your-own-community-forum/18125-stop-robot-accounts-spam.html

Lady Eyes, More excellent help from you. Vasili, good of you to stop by. I read you often, with pleasure.

Lady Eyes, everything you placed here good and clear. OK, gotcha on the standard menu. I was just thinking of cosmetics, but I can just put the menu box on every page.

My question about http://www. was not if I could skip this when I'm creating addresses. What I meant is that when I'm browsing I never put in http:// and often eliminate the www., only puting in the .com and it usually works fine. I'm asking if I tell someone to go to my website, in a casual way, do I need to say to the person 'BE Sure' to write it http://www.electmagi.com or can I say 'hey dudette, go to electmagi.com'?

Since you're the one to gift me with my pdf, Lady, I'll just ask if I should go over to primo to ask questions about linking it to here and it's uses or is that a legitimate subject here also? David advised me to put links to my HOME page often at different points in the story. The pdf document is separate from this program, but do I add my HOME hyperlinks in the same way on every several page of the pdf as I do here?

Thanks again, Shoemaker

Vasili, I already saved that page you recomended, have a great day, ****

Hi ... yes, I answered you for how it is you correctly write out links ..

If you are handing out your domain name address, you can just use www.domainname.com

As well it depends if the user is going to search or if the user is going to use the address bar ..

Many people, believe it or not, do not know the difference between an address bar and a search box ..

The address bar is the top bar on your computer and when you arrive on a webpage you will see very clearly the url is written in the address bar, which is the address to the webpage of course (well other times this can be masked, but that's another story) but if they have the correct url they an type this in their address bar, the www. is necessary, you can get away without using the http:// there yourself, but your browser will correct it ..

Now performing a search is another thing ... and when performing a search you do not use the address bar or the website url, you use the search box and you use what might be a keyword for what you are looking for .. hence the reason for keywords .. so that the search engines can pull up your page because that is relevant to your search ..

You can read up on primo's terms of use on their website, and yes, it's a matter you would take up with them as to how you wanted to use it ..

And p.s. ... how did you know EYE was Dudette????

Actually I wouldn't be so presumptuous to call you 'dudette' at this stage. It was a euphemism for use . . . 'out there.' lol

Hey, great explanation of address bar and search box!

I was reviewing your earlier post on the thread here to get it fresh. Something that just occurred to me is that if my novel is on pdf that's going to give me zilch for search engines because key words and meta-tags won't be placed in my page properties, right?

OK, I'm homeworking

Hi Team,

I'm getting closer to signing on. I won't be back in Cal for about five or six days. Is it better to wait until I get back to sign on?

I have a domain name from *******. I pay them $10/year for the name. Do I also pay here for that domain name? Are there any other charges I should be aware of besides my yearly fee?

I know I should search around here for my early instructions but is it possible to direct me to homework areas to prepare myself for getting started once I'm a part of the club?

I'd still like to know if my novel is on pdf does that eliminate key words, meta-tags, etc., to help with SEO?

I was reviewing LadyEyes' Voda Tips and I noticed she said she didn't like long pages because that worked against key word advantages. I'd like to get better at that strategy.

In my notes page, if I fill a page with my notes but don't want to have a lot of pages on my menu, can I archive a full page and keep it available for reading by having the archives listed in a corner of the current page? What that says is that I'm holding the WordPress in reserve and beginning with text on page in the early stages. I figure I can change down the line.

The stat-counter will be important for me to learn about once I'm rolling. Ghost town or mining camp?

OK team, thanks again from Shoemaker.