Getting forum board instead of web page

[Pader]

Hi,
I published all of my web page documents (html) when I was still getting an Index list. In the mean time, I installed a bulletin board. I installed it into the default root directory. My new connection must have been made whilst this was going on as when I type in my site address (Browns-gas.info), the forum page comes up instead of my web page (index.html)

Any help would be appreciated as I am finding this all rather laborious as I have never set up a website before.

Pader

[Vasili]

Uninstall your Forum ...(assuming it was installed via Fantastico!). A "Directory" can have only 1 index page, and since you have 2 in your public_html/ root directory, they are conflicting and the last installed (the Forum) takes precedence.

If you want to have a Forum in addition to your website, and are installing it via Fantastico, fill in the small little box at the top of the installation page with a name of whatever you want to call the Forum, and a Directory will automatically be created for you and the Forum installed to that directory.

You can then link to your Forum with a hyperlink such as this: www WebsiteDomainName.com/ForumNameYouEntered/

[Pader]

Thanks Vasili,
I thought that might be the problem, but now my new problem is how to uninstall the BB.

Looking at the file manager for my site, I find a multitude of files of which I have no idea of their function. There doesn't appear to be an uninstall feature in cpanel.

Pader

[Collectors-info]

Hi, you should be able to go back to Fantasico & the facility will be their to un-install the program via clicking on the BB you installed.
Once this is done you can republish your BV index page to get everything back to normal.
Wile you are in the cpanel you could also create a folder under the public_html area & call it forum.
When you try to install the forum again you can tell it to install in the forum directory.

[Pader]

Hi once again
I managed to remove the forum ok - thank you very much. However, now I am really confused. Although the forum appeared to be working, it showed myself and another on line at the same time.

But now that the forum has gone, whenever I enter www.browns-gas.info in the address bar I am back to the 'Index of.......' screen showing all of my files in the public directory.

[Collectors-info]

Hi, delete the page http://www.browns-gas.info/Index.html & re-publish as index only. The correct link to this page will be just http://www.browns-gas.info/

[Pader]

Hi collector
I have tried changing the page attributes as publishing doesn't appear to give you any file type options. I then tried changing the name in the file manager but still end up with the same index of..........

[Collectors-info]

Hi, have you saved the page as just index & published the page again? When you save a BV page it automatically saves it as a .bvp format. All you have to do is just name it with no extensions like html or php, just a name. Then when you publish the page, BV will automatically change this page to a html or php that was chosen when making the page (Default is html) & format for use on the web.

[Pader]

Hi Chris,
yes, I tried both ways. The original file was formatted as html in page properties and I published it. I then removed the blued out html in properties then closed properties without selecting a file type. It was saved as bvp file. I have tried using 'save as' but it still insists on calling it index.bvp. As I said before, I even tried changing the name just to index in cpanel but it still brings up the 'Index of........' page

Pete

[Collectors-info]

Hi, Yes its meant to save as a .bvp file. This is no problem as long as a user dosnt try to save it as something else. The BV program or server will see this bvp file & auto convert it for web use (html)

[Collectors-info]

Hi, i see you have 2 index pages? you can only have one style of index page. Usually its just left in the properties box as html. If you have 2 index's it will confuse things & best to remove the .php one.

NOTE: Have also noticed your index pages are not in lower case letters

[Pader]

I must have misunderstood somewhere along the line. My impression was that the index file should not have any suffix such as html. I have been trying to work on those lines. Sorry about the index.php file, I was trying everything that I could think of and forgot to remove that file.

[Pader]

Would it be beneficial if, somehow, I could erase the whole site (obviously not the bvp files) and start again?

[Vasili]

Try thinking in "modes" ..... and making changes to things when in the correct 'mode.'

Open Blue Voda, and open your mis-titled Index page ....now EDIT > SAVE AS > index and then PUBLISH it immediately.

Keep the reminders offered by others first in your mind regarding your web pages: A. All pages need to be named and Saved in lower case, Not Capitals; B. Use and underscore like_this or another method and do not leave blank spaces in page names; C. Make sure you Save each page properly to your proper BV folder, careful to not overwrite another page or another similarly named page in another folder; and so on.

Earlier, you were told to REMOVE your Forum that was installed via Fantastico by going back in Fantastico to use the one-click removal method .... NOT by File Manager. This is what I am trying to illustrate --- thinking and acting within MODEs...making Blue Voda changes when in Blue Voda, Fantastico changes when in Fantastico.....This is NOT difficult, and there is no reason to over-complicate things or not conform.

[Pader]

I presume you mean 'save as' in the file menu. The is no option in the edit mode for that. I already tried that and it asks me if I want to replace the existing index.vbp

[Vasili]

NO .... please re-read the post above until it makes better sense.

[Pader]

is there anyway to start again without removing my existing pages (Bvp)

[Vasili]

What part are you struggling with? Every time you re-save a Blue Voda page it overwrites the previous version ..... why on earth would you want to "start over" if all you need to do is open your pages and re-Save them with corrected names (all lower case) and re-publish them?

I am leaving this thread now, and hopefully after reviewing all these posts you will be able to pick up the logic that has been clearly amplified for your benefit. I realize there may be some difficulty with English, but it needs be you make a better effort to understand what has been posted here by different people over and over again. Good Luck!

[Karen Mac]

No.. you will have to go to cpanel, file manager, public html and delete all index files, then republish ONLY the index file that you want as your home page.

Karen

[Pader]

Thanks vasili,
that seems to be the secret. I did not notice that index was capitalised. I can now get to my main web page. Unfortunately my hyperlinks do not behave as I expected, I will work on that

[Vasili]

No problem, Pader!

1. You now need to open each of your pages and examine every hyperlink to be sure they too are entered using lower case letters, and will correspond to the exact "new" page name you will name in the step below .....
2. Now that you have corrected any link errors on all your pages, remember to re-publish each page after saving them using lower case letters (they will automatically overwrite the pages saved earlier).



Karen's sugestion above is the process to "edit" what is on the server, and since BV automatically overwrites pages every time you save them, this will not be necessary unless you want 100% conformity by removing pages named/saved/published with capitalizations: not entirely necessary, since your links are all now properly structured and you have such a large storage allowance per account, so it is something you can do as an intellectual persuit only.

[Pader]

Hi Vasili,
Two of my html documents, 'who' and 'stoichiometric', were intended to open on the same page in a mouse over drop down box. I guessed that checking the box on the hyperlink drop down would do this but obviously not. In the tutorials, they mostly covered using a new page and I could not find one to help me with this problem. If you need to be reminded, my URL is browns-gas.info.

Many thanks

Pete

[Vasili]

All I can reiterate, Pader, is you really need to review the Tutorials until you grasp the concepts entirely --- any navigation system (using hyperlinks, as text-based, "drop-down," sliding, or otherwise) will reference another 'destination' (object, page, or file -- even if configuring a "parent browser" or Inline Frame, it is still refrencing a separateness).

For your purposes, you can clone/duplicate the parent page, change the Content area as needed, and save as a new and separate page to be published normally --- and that "new" page title will be entered into that hyperlink in your navigational scheme as normally done.

If you wanted the information to open "above" your page as either a Word document or a PDF, then you need simply enter the hyperlink in your menu as whatever type of format you have prepared. Be sure to upload each "file" to your public_html/ directory (via the FTP Manager tool inside Blue Voda) so it is available to be 'found' and opened for visitors when 'clicked' to present as a "page" in a new browser over the original page.
For a PDF document, the link you enter should look like this: www browns-gas.info/documenttitle.pdf
For a Word document: www browns-gas.info/documenttitle.doc
* Be sure to select "new" or "-blank" option for browser settings in your navigation dialog, so it opens a new browser over the original page.


On the back-end of website design, making individual pages is important also with regard to optimization strategy, as it allows this unique page content to be properly recognized and indexed independently of any other page, adding significantly to the overall site relavence and thus the metric SE value.

[Pader]

I understand that Vasili, I do not expect instant knowledge, but there is a considerable amount of information to sift through. I also do not understand some of the jargon used as I am a complete novice in web authoring. I have looked through the tutorial list several times and I am unable to find one that actually explains the difference between _blank and other types.

I did notice that one of my links did actually produce a small webpage where I wanted it (who.html) but it was a webpage and not the panel that I expected. Incidentally, I tried to duplicate that with the hyperlink in the text (eastbristolarea) but could not despite duplicating all of the fields

[Vasili]

This is the Tutorial about hyperlinking (#12) >> http://www.vodahost.com/vodatalk/hyp...mages-etc.html Within the first 2 minutes, you will be shown the section you need to understand.

To normally link to another page of your website, leave TARGET field empty as it is by default.
To have your new page, file, or other link open up a new browser window, select TARGET = "_blank" from the list.

It is as simple as that.

For tips on how to use other features , (such as CLONE to duplicate a page easily so you can change parts of the page as needed), refer to specific Tutorials to detail everything you need to learn to apply. Or, do a Forum "Search" using Key Words that concern your challenge point to bring up the various threads where you will find the many different ways to address the same situation.

[Pader]

Hi Vasili,
I have watched that particular video at least 10 times. I know the basic process of hyperlinking as I have already done it on my site. My issue is that no explanation is made of all the various options in the drop down menu. All of the tutorials, as far as I remember, leave the option blank or use _blank but there are several more options in that drop down that I have absolutely no idea of their function. For instance, my eastbristolarea link has the open link in a pop-up window checked but the page opens full screen on another page.

[Vasili]

So simply change the link to however you wish it to behave! Re-Save and re-publish the page and you're done.

For a better idea of which TARGET options to use, refer to this post > http://www.vodahost.com/vodatalk/gen...ent#post117185


BTW: I don't know if you have noticed or not, but you have saved and published your index page as Indecks and need to go back and Save/Publish properly as index.

[Pader]

I got extremely frustrated with this whole thing and also had several rubbish files on my account. I have deleted all of my existing published files. I am trying to republish all of my files but I am back to the old problem of renaming index.html to just index.

What is the actual sequence of publishing the index file without the suffix. Is it done using page properties? There is no facility when I publish to name the file as index only and the main properties page for my index file only gives the option for html or pdp. Erasing either option still results in the page being published as an html.

I think I might have renamed the index.html file to just index in cpanel but had so many rubbish files there, I dont know which actually started my web page up.

[Pader]

Help, I now find that I cannot make an internet connection to re-publish.

[Vasili]

Do yourself a favor and STAY OUT OF YOUR CONTROL PANEL completely!

To publish a page using Blue Voda, use the PUBLISH icon only (found on the top toolbar inside Blue Voda's workpane).

Forget about extensions when you Save pages and when you Publish them --- Blue Voda automatically does everything for you.

Save each page with names in lower case letters without using spaces (use and underscore like_this if necessary), and THEN Publish them normally using the Publish icon in Blue Voda.

THAT IS ALL. Simple, and clear ...... if needed, review the Tutorials 100x to follow them precisely!

You're on your own from here.

[Pader]

So, Vasili, I am on my own from here huh? It is a good thing you are not a driving instructor.

In most of your posts you used the word 'simply'. There is nothing simple about this whole thing if you are a complete novice in web authoring as I am. I was getting frustrated because I asked at least twice how the index file was published without the suffix including in my penultimate post. You still did not answer my question. I inexplicably got my connection back this morning and sure enough, despite your statement to the contrary, the index file was uploaded as Index.html also, all of the other capitalised files shown in the 'index of...', were saved several times in lower case but still got published with capitals.

You seem to have forgotten that you Acquired your knowledge over a period. You did not get that knowledge by divine revelation. I am not stupid, I was once tested by Mensa and achieved an IQ score of 156 but in the same way as you cannot ask a paediatrician to do brain surgery, I need to acquire my knowledge but it is not an instantaneous process. I know that you are providing a valuable service to many people but you do need to learn a little forbearance if you are going to continue to do so effectively. Please answer the actual questions put to you rather than demonstrating your great knowledge of all things BlueVoda and the internet.

For the record, I have got the site working by going into my BlueVoda directory in windows explorer and renaming them (removing capitals) manually at source.

[Karen Mac]

Pader,

Had you not got it working, I would have suggested that you put in a ticket for an account reset and start from scratch.. this would have saved a ton of headache and heartache, and I apologize for NOT stepping in here and suggesting exactly that...

For the future when working with BV, simply title your pages and do not type in an extension. They will save as whateveryounamedthem.bvp. When you publish them the server automatically changes the properties to html or php, which ever you have chosen in your page properties. This eliminates the need for you to add an extension when saving.

Hope this makes sense for you and please feel free to ask further questions on the forum.

Glad its working! Thread Locked!

Karen