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    Hi, I have spent a good 3 hours and designed and published my first Website!

    It is extremely rough and dirty, but it basically does what I set out for it to do.

    Over the next couple of months, I shall be re-designing it with a bit more finesse and one of the things that I will want to improve upon is the way in which I have embedded links to some MP3 tracks!

    I placed some icons on the index page and clicking the icon then moves in a very ugly manner to display a grey screen with the plugin indicator bar as it moves through the song!

    Can anyone suggest a better way please?

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    Default Re: Playing music!

    lets talk about this....

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    Default Re: Playing music!

    what about the media player?

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    Default Re: Playing music!

    Yes I thought that the answer probably lay there ... when I manage to find some time, I will work out how to use that and give it a whirl ... many thanks for showing an interest!

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    Publish the page and I will take a look.

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    Default Re: Playing music!

    thanks vodahost...
    can we download a player from the web somewhere and install it into our website, maybe some html language, or a link or something?
    thank you

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    Default Re: Playing music!

    another question...
    can we insert a link that just allows a media player to pop out, and can this new page that pops out, can it be this size? 50x50?

    thank you

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    yes

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    Default Re: Playing music!

    wow, thats great news...?

    CAn you help me do that?

    Do you work for Vodahost?

    thanks...
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    Default Re: Playing music!

    My page (such as it is!) has been published and can be selected from the drop-down list that appears by my details! I have just tried to add an experimental box with the media player icon, but it is now taking ages to publish again!!

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    Well that was an absolute disaster! The page took 4 minutes to appear, so I am guessing that I didn't do it right or ... it's not the answer for me!

    I don't want it to play automatically - only when selected i.e. by clicking on something

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    Vodahost...

    Can u help us out?

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    create a subdomain in your cpanel,
    upload to the subdomain folder by going to File Manager and to the folder of your subdomain, upload files

    once files are uploaded create a link on your page like subdomian.mysite.com/music.mp3 or whatever the file's name is you uploaded

    for instance
    go to http://www.exstazjianjsadian.com/music.html they can listen to the music directly from the site or right click on the file and save target as to download

    you'll notice when downlaoding it goes to http://sadianfileserver.exstazjianjsadian.com to get the file, its very easy to do in cpanel find subdomians click add subdomian once in there the subdomain's name you choose will be the folder in File Manager like public_html/subdomian click and open that folder once there there is a tab that says upload file you can upload any kind of file you want zip or otherwise

    this is the easiest way to keep track of files you uploaded without them getting all mixed up in your main folder in File Manager
    and when downloading it broadcasts from a different folder

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    sadain,,
    thanks,,
    i went to CP, added a sub, then when to file manager and uploaded a track..
    this is where i think i messed up... i dont know if it uploaded into mu sub folder..
    i created a link, and i named the link the subdomain name, /the track name...
    didnt work...
    let me know,
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    navel..
    you there? i still cant get a download on my music page...
    ive linked a picture, ive went into the CP with a subdomain?...
    what do u think i should try next?

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    Default Re: Playing music!

    Please note that if you want to use the media player implemented in yout BV pages, when publishing, also the mp3 file is being uploaded. If you simply want to have a link to the mp3 and your visitors to click and download the file, then publishing procedures and times are normal. The only difference is that in the first case the media player will appear implemented in your page, in the second case the visitors media player will popup for the file to be opened.

    The above as general notes. Will you please explain what excactly you want to accomplish so i can try to give you specific directions?
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    Quote Originally Posted by fnt
    navel..
    you there? i still cant get a download on my music page...
    ive linked a picture, ive went into the CP with a subdomain?...
    what do u think i should try next?


    Uploading a file is a little tricky first click on the public_html folder then click on the subdomian folder then click on upload files in that folder which upload folder looks like a folder itself

    then creat the link http://subdomianname.domianname.com/musicfile.mp3 once the link is made and someone clicks on it at your page it automatically routs to thier default media player like link your text by highlighting and clicking on Insert then fill in the link as example above

    you have to click on the brown folder icons

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    hey guys..
    thats the thing..
    i do not have a folder under the public folder..
    i went to subdomains, clicked on it, and it says sub domain maintanance,, then it says current subs.. and it says redirect connect setup, or remve..
    i added a sub there...
    i might be wrong place...
    thanks both of you

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    When you create a subdomian a folder will be added in the File Manager then in the public_html folder by the same name you named the subdomian the folder will be created instantly after you created the subdomian

    You have to go to File Manager in the cpanel then click on the brown folder before the public_html text dont click on the text click on the brown folder before it that will open the public_html folder search for a folder named just like your subdomian you created.

    if you click on the text it will take you to tools

    then follow the steps I already posted....

    Take your time and post later if it worked out.

    If the folder is not there create the subdomian all over agian but first delete the first one you created in the Subdomians manager

    Note: Subdomains rely on the DNS system in order to function, which means that your DNS information must propagate throughout the different DNS servers on the Internet before your subdomain becomes fully active. This process on the average takes a few hours.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fnt
    hey guys..
    thats the thing..
    i do not have a folder under the public folder..
    i went to subdomains, clicked on it, and it says sub domain maintanance,, then it says current subs.. and it says redirect connect setup, or remve..
    i added a sub there...
    i might be wrong place...
    thanks both of you
    If you confuse just publish directly using bluevoda as naval said or use Blue FTP.
    if you want all your music file separate in one folder, create new folder, on Blue FTP click file=>new folder or press F7 on your PC keyboard, named your new folder whatever you want and then upload your mp3 file to your new folder. to dowload it write your link as www.yourdomain/yourfolder/yourfile.mp3
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    Nyoman is right that is another way.

    But, the advantage of a subdomain is going to be the speed of your web site loading. If your website is loading everything from one domian it can cause delays in download time, having a subdomain as a file server means faster loading for surfers

    Whichever you prefer.

    File Manager is tricky with the brown folder links, I had to learn to understand that as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sadain
    But, the advantage of a subdomain is going to be the speed of your web site loading. If your website is loading everything from one domian it can cause delays in download time, having a subdomain as a file server means faster loading for surfers
    Could you please explain? The procedure for a browser to get to a subdomain folder or to any other subfolder in a site, is excactly the same.
    In what way is loading from a subdomain faster than from another folder in the same site?
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    Subdomains rely on the DNS system in order to function, different DNS servers on the Internet

    Broadcasting from the same folders and everything but it just seems faster In any case

    Thats my theorory I geuss... I wouldnt know why I just know when I did it without a subdomain the site seemed longer to load because take for instance,

    Loaded exstazjianjsadian.com with a lot of mp3's and when you hit the domian it wants to load everthing to Temp Internet Files but if there are links to a subdomain with the Files that are heavy in megabytes and not on the main domian, then the main domian doesnt take long to load.

    Just check how long it takes to open this page, with the links to a subdomian http://www.exstazjianjsadian.com/music.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sadain
    Subdomains rely on the DNS system in order to function, different DNS servers on the Internet

    Broadcasting from the same folders and everything but it just seems faster In any case

    Thats my theorory I geuss... I wouldnt know why I just know when I did it without a subdomain the site seemed longer to load because take for instance,

    Loaded exstazjianjsadian.com with a lot of mp3's and when you hit the domian it wants to load everthing to Temp Internet Files but if there are links to a subdomain with the Files that are heavy in megabytes and not on the main domian, then the main domian doesnt take long to load.

    Just check how long it takes to open this page, with the links to a subdomian http://www.exstazjianjsadian.com/music.html
    hmmmmm never heard about that, but no worry we are all learning
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    Indonesia..
    what a place

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    cant find the folder after ive created the subdomain...
    and i also cannot upload a file onto a new folder in my blueftp..
    hopeless case,,,
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    But i am sure you can upload/publish normally through publish button on Bluevoda. Do you? don't say no lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by fnt
    cant find the folder after ive created the subdomain...
    and i also cannot upload a file onto a new folder in my blueftp..
    hopeless case,,,
    paul


    Did you go to Subdomians and not Add on Domians in your cpanel to create the Subdomians

    You have to go to Subdomians...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sadain
    Subdomains rely on the DNS system in order to function, different DNS servers on the Internet

    Broadcasting from the same folders and everything but it just seems faster In any case

    Thats my theorory I geuss... I wouldnt know why I just know when I did it without a subdomain the site seemed longer to load because take for instance,

    Loaded exstazjianjsadian.com with a lot of mp3's and when you hit the domian it wants to load everthing to Temp Internet Files but if there are links to a subdomain with the Files that are heavy in megabytes and not on the main domian, then the main domian doesnt take long to load.

    Just check how long it takes to open this page, with the links to a subdomian http://www.exstazjianjsadian.com/music.html
    Hmmmmm also for me. As Nyo said, i never heard of that either. And no loading of the site goes on when you load a page. So no mp3's are loaded by the browser. The browser only loads the requested page and not anything else. The mp3's are only loaded when specifically requested by a link. ONLY IF THE MP3 IS PUT IN AS BACKGROUND MUSIC will load together with the rest of the page, but in that case it has absolutely no difference if it is in the public-html or any other folder. To verify this, PING your main page and your subdomain, and you will see that there is excactly the same mean response time. I agree about having the mp3's in a separete folder, but just for organisation reasons, not for speed.
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    Info Taken from: http://content.websitegear.com/artic..._subdomain.htm


    The third reason for using a subdomain name is to load balance the web servers for a high traffic website. Multiple web servers are assigned different subdomains like www.sitename.com, www1.sitename.com, www2.sitename.com etc, though each of them contain the same application code. When the request comes from the browser, the load balancing software redirects it to one of these servers. DNS load balancing is a simple method of load balancing using subdomains pointing to different IP addresses
    A subdomain is the part of the website address before the domain name. For example, the address for WebsiteGear forum is http://forum.websitegear.com. Here, forum is a subdomain of the domain name websitegear.com. Subdomains are also known as the third level domains or canonical names. A subdomain, unlike a domain name, is not registered anywhere because it is associated with a domain name only. It can be created by the web host on the DNS server. The most commonly used subdomain is www, as in http://www.websitegear.com. However, there is no need to add www in front of the domain name. Similarly, mail server addresses often have mail as the subdomain, as in mail.websitegear.com.
    Why are subdomains used?

    Subdomains are commonly used to categorize portions of the website. For example, the services offered by WebsiteGear are categorized by their subdomains, such as poll.websitegear.com or rating.websitegear.com. The benefit is that the subdomain can be easily moved to another server if the category gets very popular.
    Subdomains are also used by free webhosting providers to resell web space under their own domain name (e.g. http://membername.hostname.com). Each member will have their subdomain, however, they all will still share the domain name of the hosting provider. The third reason for using a subdomain name is to load balance the web servers for a high traffic website. Multiple web servers are assigned different subdomains like www.sitename.com, www1.sitename.com, www2.sitename.com etc, though each of them contain the same application code. When the request comes from the browser, the load balancing software redirects it to one of these servers. DNS load balancing is a simple method of load balancing using subdomains pointing to different IP addresses.

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    good info thank's, back to the topic. may i know what is the conection between downloading mp3 file with downloading subdomain? in example if the mp3 file you put in the main domain, the download will be from domainname/file.mp3, and if youn put in subdomain,download will be from subdomain/file.mp3. in which case will make the load speed different? still i am confuse
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    One post said that the page was slow

    I just gave a suggestion...

    anyhow there is enough info in these post to accomplish the deed.

    I dont know what fnt is doing wrong.

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    you guys been so great,, helpfull...
    really,,
    now i just must try to figure it out...

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    Nyoman, Sadain, NavelD, VodaH,

    alleluia...
    Got what i needed done...
    thanks for all your patience and time...
    aloha
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    Quote Originally Posted by fnt
    Nyoman, Sadain, NavelD, VodaH,

    alleluia...
    Got what i needed done...
    thanks for all your patience and time...
    aloha
    paul

    I like how you did your popup music window

    You asked earlier if someone could get the song, well if someone wanted it bad enough the way you did it anyone could go to thier Temporary Internet Files and copy your song out of there

    I've never tried to keep someone from downloading the music file but if you ask someone there are ways to create a secured site so no one can download your meterial

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