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    Hey y'all!

    I am trying to set up a website for my brother and I am VERY new at this.

    The pages are done and are at appearanceawning.com

    The problem I am having is when I go to this page (which loads fine) and click on one of the links to another one of the pages

    I don't see that page but i see a list of everything on that page like it's a ftp or something. I have my pages loaded into public_html not ftp.

    It looks like this:

    public-html
    |
    industrial
    |
    marine

    and the links are named appearanceawning/industrial and appearanceawning/marine.

    I hope I've given enough information and I await your suggestions eagerly.

    Thank you,

    Bob

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    You must name you pages properly just as described in the Tutorials, Save them in your BlueVoda folder, and then Publish them using the PUBLISH command from within BlueVoda only, not by transferring/uploading page files!

    Once you Publish your pages correctly, you can link to them by entering your links in your navigation to look like this: html://www.appearanceawning/industrial.php instead of the improper manner http://www.appearanceawning.com/industrial/industrial.php

    Presently, you have improperly created sub-directories for each of your pages, as your links to individual pages look like this:
    http://www.appearanceawning.com/marine/marine.php
    http://www.appearanceawning.com/industrial/industrial.php ..... and the link to your index/Home page is entered as the ".html" extension when you are using the PHP Method for your site. Also missing from all your pages is an actual link back to your Home page - you should always provide one by default!

    I would suggest re-organizing your site structure by removing the redundant sub-directory, correcting your page links to reflect this new proper structure, making sure a link to the Home page is on all pages, and re-publishing all your pages.

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    So what you're saying is I should dump all the files in index_html? What if I have 2 different files with the same name?

    I got it working, btw with the help of my amazing friend.

    I wanted to keep the files for each separate in hopes that it would be easier to update.

    See how this works, http://appearanceawning.com

    Thanks

    Bob

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    2 things: I DID load this stuff in BlueVoda, The awnings page is my index page. I will add more stuff as we go along, as I said, I'm VERY new to website construction. Also, the one vid about publishing mentioned sub-directories. So, I think someone's ok with that. =)

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    Whether or not you call your index page the "Awnings" page does not mean your site Visitors will, as it is expected to find a simple link called "Home" to return to the index page. Yours is a simple site with few pages, so it would not be that big a deal to simply add a "Home" link to your navigation, even if letting Awnings stay as a redundancy.

    However, I strongly suggest that you do in fact create and publish a separate Index page (apart from any other "topical" page like awnings, marine, etc.) to truly be the first page Visitors see when arriving at your site .... you can present a bit about your business, highlight some specialties, offer a deal, or just give some depth about who is behind the site. This serves two purposes: it complies with the standards in web design and satisfies the Search Engines as they read some relevancy, and it allows Visitors to understand your site (and your business) as they ought, and maybe feel more comfortable calling you based on your site design being more professional and not singularly awkward. Then you can let your "Awnings" page be just for awnings, and the same for "Marine" .... that's the core of creating the relevancy the Search Engines demand.

    And, yes, the one video tutorial does mention how to Save BVP pages in separate directories, but only to keep different site pages separate and not over-writing themselves by mistake. This is a serious gaffe to create a website as you did, not only logistically, but also with regard to any SEO values you would normally hope to earn for the site's SERP. A video demonstrating how to publish to another website or directory does not mean you should apply the principle to a single website - it is there to show you how to publish to an Add-On Domain or separate directory!!

    With this erroneously structured site, the SE's basically think there is only one page per site (per directory), and with navigation on each of them pointing to what you intended to be linked pages within a site is seen as pages to different one-page sites, and will thus flag big time as a Black Hat navigational strategy.

    It is best to follow normal standards and expectations to receive best results rather than interpret or assume incorrectly and suffer consequences that have long-lasting impact unnecessarily!
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    I've made a home page and adjusted the other pages to reflect this. As I keep finding little bits of things wrong I keep having to wipe the entire website and reinstall everything to make one small change to one page. (it won't reflect the change, otherwise) I don't know who, back in the mists of time, arbitrarily decided that sub-folders to public_html is a naughty thing to do but I'd really like to meet them.

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    It's the "awnings" page that keeps showing an incorrect version. (No "Home" link and "Marine" twice). I've wiped the folder and reinstalled the entire website 3 times this morning and cleared cache on my browser and I still get the awning page incorrectly.

    This page as it appears on the internet is nowhere to be found in my BlueVoda folder.

    Bob

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    Supports suggestion was to install another program to clear cache on my browser despite me telling them that I already had. I viewed the page using IE The problem is still there. I viewed the webpage from another computer in our office The problem is still there. I viewed the page from a computer in my home. The problem is still there. The problem IS still there this morning. I will wipe the public_html folder a 6th time and reload the pages. If this doesn't fix the problem, I will revert to using sub folders in public_html because I am tired of deleting then reinstalling everything just to fix one stupid page. I'm still willing to listen to advice but right now I'm stuck and not likely to move forward any time soon

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    If you really think it is a browser caching issue, you should flush your DNS cache, and if you follow these instructions, likely your whole online experience will clean up for quite a while afterwards: How to Flush Your DNS

    Question: Why are you publishing your pages as PHP rather than HTML? They do not have special elements on them, nor does any function require it to be so, unless you decide to create a Contact page with a Form on it .... with all the clamor recently regarding the LightBox, the Menus, the positioning of layered elements all going screwy for no reason, it all goes back to the upgrades in BV12 with regard to the Browser's method of displaying pages and how BV was brought up to speed for WC3 compliance, but that meant compromise on certain aspects of BV function.
    SEE EXPLANATION HERE and HERE
    Suggestion: Since BV12 has issues dealing with PHP includes and dynamic element positioning, I would recommend that you not only implement a new page design, but that you re-publish all your pages as HTML the way they were supposed to be. See if this rectifies your most pressing issue: how the browsers display the pages, and how your pages are linked.
    Remember to delete the PHP pages in cPanel first, so when you publish your HTML pages there is no conflict between them!


    Having spoken to you, I know that your problem stems from simply not understanding how things are organized, saved, published, or ordered (logically), otherwise you would not be in the original position you found yourself in nor would you find it so challenging to climb out of it. The steps have been clearly suggested above, but apparently you still do not wish to follow them, preferring instead to do it your own way. That's OK, but you should not be angry with others for the results of your improper independence.

    Take a few deep breaths, and review this WHOLE thread to grasp the aspects that have been offered to you and which you may still be overlooking.

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    Since you are in contact with Support, this truly is no longer a Forums issue, and you will need to continue receiving assistance from them.
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