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    Hi. This is a bit of a mouthful but hope you can understand. I have a drop down menu system on my pages. Which drop from the top down. On one particular section i have currently got 4 or 5 pages which necessitate a menu on the page. I am fine with that but i was hoping to have just one actual page in use and when a user clicked on these menus on the side of the page the required text would appear on the page and when they would click on the next one the text, not the page would change. Basically to avoid users getting lost i would just like them to be able to click into this oage and use the side menuse to see the different text displayed in a common text area on the page without the page changing. Sorry does that make sense. Im sure there is a name for it but i dont know it!!!
    On a seperate item. Can you change the scrolling bar on the side of IE for your site through Blue Voda.
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    I are thinking about using an I-frame, nay? I think so. Well, here's what you want to do.

    It's not complicated, but I really don't know how to explain it. Do you have your site published yet, so I can give you ideas in terms of what I see?

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    Hi ... I frames will work well for what you want to do... little tricky but doable... use the search tool above and look through the I Frame Threads....
    I know that there are some really good how to do in those threads.... Doug

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    Quote Originally Posted by jollygreengiant
    Hi. This is a bit of a mouthful but hope you can understand. I have a drop down menu system on my pages. Which drop from the top down. On one particular section i have currently got 4 or 5 pages which necessitate a menu on the page. I am fine with that but i was hoping to have just one actual page in use and when a user clicked on these menus on the side of the page the required text would appear on the page and when they would click on the next one the text, not the page would change. Basically to avoid users getting lost i would just like them to be able to click into this oage and use the side menuse to see the different text displayed in a common text area on the page without the page changing. Sorry does that make sense. Im sure there is a name for it but i dont know it!!!
    On a seperate item. Can you change the scrolling bar on the side of IE for your site through Blue Voda.
    For the first thing there was a post just yesterday about that, with a good solution.. have a look, and I will too maybe one of us will find it... LOL
    But the second question is easier to answer - go to page properties and there is an optio there to change colors on the scroll bar .. View - page properties - scrollbar. and there you go!
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    Hi AmaDee. I havent been back on here as i hadnt published the page in question. We are still in the testing phase. The page in question is http://www.shroscrea.com/history I would like to be able to have a common text area on the page so that when i or a visitor clicks on one of the side menu-s it will replace the current text on the page without actually loading a new page. Thx

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    I have been looking through the posts on i-frames and none of them seem to give me the info i need. I have tested it on my own and havent been able to get it to work but dont know if im doing it right. The online tutorial only introduces them at their most basic level

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    Hi ...Jolly... Place an I-frame on your page.. name it anything you like.. say frame1..address/link for the page you wish to call up into frame1...say http://www.yourdomain.com/pageA.html ...when you layout pageA ..position it to the top left corner..because the I-frame reads from top left corner.. then target it at frame1....publish both pages.. because i-frames only work when published ... and not in preview .... that will do it... good luck .. have fun... Doug

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    P.S... Jolly... Oh yeah ... be sure to size the area of the page you wish to show in the I-Frame the same size ... the sized I frame will only show that part of the page called up .. reading from the top left corner..and if you uncheck "border" on the I-frame...the frame can be made kinda invisible...hope that helps... Have Fun...Doug

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    Hi Doug, I'm still having problems getting the inline frames to appear. I've created a page called inlineframe.html which contains the inlineframe. I then have a page with text on it called testpage.html. I have called the inline frame, frame1, in the properties but i can't seem to get any properties for the testpage so as I can make the target, frame1. How do I go about getting the target path to appear for my testpage? When I publish the pages, the inlineframe.html appears (with the Page Cannot Be Found Error) while the text I have on the testpage also appears when i view that seperately. Getting testpage.html to appear within inlineframe.html is the problem

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    Hi, D/click on the iframe (properties box should appear) & enter in the URL field.
    http://www.yoursite.com/testpage.html & press OK.
    For this to work live or in preview, your page named as test should be published to your server/site. You will get a 404 page if not published.


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    Thanks for the help. got it working. I had forgotten the http:// in the link. Just wondering about another problem I have encountered. When we type the URL of our site into the address bar www.shroscrea.com , the index of our files appears. Therefore to see the main page of the site you have to type www.shroscrea.com/home.html. How do you go about getting the main page to appear by just entering www.shroscrea.com

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    Hi, your home page should be named index only & nothing else, & all in lower case. No dots/dashs/.html's. & then publish. You will reach the home page/index via this link. www.shroscrea.com

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    So if i just name the page index.html and load it into the publi_html folder it will automatically go to it from the link you metnioned above and not the actual index? If i just call it index with no extension how will it be recognised? Thanks in advance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jollygreengiant
    So if i just name the page index.html and load it into the publi_html folder it will automatically go to it from the link you metnioned above and not the actual index? If i just call it index with no extension how will it be recognised? Thanks in advance.

    Name your page index, save your page as index, publish your page as index ....

    The Blue Voda Software does all of the rest for you. It is currently set as default .html ... no need to add that ....

    You only apply the .html when you are typing the link ...

    If your second page was called grapes, you would name it grapes, save it as grapes, publish it as grapes and link to it as http://www.nameofyourdomain.com/grapes.html

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    Thank you. I have one final question on my page and then i will leave you all in peace. :~) I have a large scroll area on my page which i dont need. Originally the scroll area was larger than the actual BV wallpaer itself but i have rectified that but now i have space on the page that i dont need and when i change the size of the wallpaper or the sixe of page in page properties it doesnt make it any smaller. Is there anything i should be doing. The page is www.shroscrea.com/home.html I know the page oes tak a while to open but i will be changing the flash to a compressed version so it wont take as long to load

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    Quote Originally Posted by jollygreengiant
    Thank you. I have one final question on my page and then i will leave you all in peace. :~) I have a large scroll area on my page which i dont need. Originally the scroll area was larger than the actual BV wallpaer itself but i have rectified that but now i have space on the page that i dont need and when i change the size of the wallpaper or the sixe of page in page properties it doesnt make it any smaller. Is there anything i should be doing. The page is www.shroscrea.com/home.html I know the page oes tak a while to open but i will be changing the flash to a compressed version so it wont take as long to load

    Okay, tick "center in browser" on your page properties, this will even out the white area on both sides, lock your margins in to your page width, either '800 or '1000 whatever you are using ...

    also - you do know that you do not have an index page published and that this is the page more than likely that it will be. If so, just rename this page index and publish the same ... and then the link would be http://www.shroscrea.com

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    Hi Jolly... If you want home.html to be the first page a visitor sees when your site opens... publish as ..index.. all that shows now for your site is a list... Doug

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    Hi Lady eye. I tried this but it didnt work. What did you mean by locking margins into the page width? Is that not done automatically?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jollygreengiant
    Hi Lady eye. I tried this but it didnt work. What did you mean by locking margins into the page width? Is that not done automatically?
    Hi Jolly

    I noticed your background is 1100' wide. I also notice that you have not tugged it tightly to the left and very top of your page. Yourreally need to be sure this is your starting point for the background.

    The recommended page width is '800 wide. Be sure that you have your
    ruler showing as part of your toolbar. (Go to View - Rulers) ... then move your background image to the far left and top and reduce it's width to '800

    Right click page properties and tick center in browser. Then be certain that all elements, (your text, images) are placed within this '800 width.

    This will then work for you ...

    (You will have to make a few adjustments on your page for this to work).

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    Thanks ladyeye. We have changed the width and height of our background image We have also changfed the page dimensions.. We are happy with our dimensions at the moment on www.shroscrea.com but we still have the problem with our scroll area. The backrground is tiling but we dont need it to as our page appears inside the original dimensions. Can you help?
    We are open to centering in browser but this seems to bring it well outside the 800 width and we cant really take off much more. We also have a problem with our menus in that we cant get them to come to the front. We have tried moving movie back and them forward but it wont work. Can you see anything? Hopefully this will be the last timei will have to ask and thanks in advance.... :~)

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    Hi .. Jolly... try this ... move movie to back then move what is hiding the movie to back.. then everything else should be in front of it.. I usually use "move to back" like stacking cards... Hope that helps... Doug

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    Quote Originally Posted by jollygreengiant
    Thanks ladyeye. We have changed the width and height of our background image We have also changfed the page dimensions.. We are happy with our dimensions at the moment on www.shroscrea.com but we still have the problem with our scroll area. The backrground is tiling but we dont need it to as our page appears inside the original dimensions. Can you help?
    We are open to centering in browser but this seems to bring it well outside the 800 width and we cant really take off much more. We also have a problem with our menus in that we cant get them to come to the front. We have tried moving movie back and them forward but it wont work. Can you see anything? Hopefully this will be the last timei will have to ask and thanks in advance.... :~)
    Hi Jolly

    I believe I discovered that you have a few text boxes on your page that do not contain text, but however, are on the outer range of your page widths. Solution - choose select all and look for a few loose blue handles sticking out on your right side, near the top right of your page .... this should solve your sideways scroll.

    In so far as the background, your background will tile as is because it is not as wide as your screen and certainly not as wide as others screens. Solution - take the background into photoshop and enlarge it. Go about 1600' wide, and this will then fill everyones screen, or most everyones screen and then - no tiling.

    Menu problem - I believe someone already suggested you use slightly smaller font, and as well do not add space in between each item. I would also suggest you change your menu bars order - Home is normally found on the very left, and from there, I would put the larger ones to the right and left of your photo show.

    I would also rearrange your page a little bit and add a shape (white) under your content on the page ... it is hard to read directly onto the background.


    Hope this helps to take a bite outta some of your troubles ...


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    Quote Originally Posted by dougnez
    Hi ...Jolly... Place an I-frame on your page.. name it anything you like.. say frame1..address/link for the page you wish to call up into frame1...say http://www.yourdomain.com/pageA.html ...when you layout pageA ..position it to the top left corner..because the I-frame reads from top left corner.. then target it at frame1....publish both pages.. because i-frames only work when published ... and not in preview .... that will do it... good luck .. have fun... Doug
    Hi Doug,
    Just getting back to this now as we are moving close to launch date. We have set up an i-frame on our local history page. The link buttons are also there. when you open the page you can see the text from roscrea.html. What we would like to be able to do is click on any one of the other buttons and only the text in the iframe would change to the requested page. We cant figure out how to do this or how to have multiple pages referencing the same i-frame.

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    Hi Jolly.. Just repeat the steps you have done for pageA (roscrea.html). you know... create a pageB (roscrea2.html)... size it to fit ..then in the button that will open pageB in the I-frame..use same addressing and targeting .. just change the address to http://www.yourdomain/pageB.html... and on and on addressing each button to...pageC.html... pageD.html... and on and on...Remember the first page to open in the I-frame when your site opens is the opening page and the I-frame is addressed to that opening page... then the buttons call up each new page to open in the I-frame... all targeted at the same I-frame's name... Once you get the hang of it is Really easy..
    and fun... Doug

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