what do l put for title?

lneedsunshine · #1 11-20-2008, 08:32 PM

What do you put for title? l went into Properties Pages and is says put in a title say for example l put Management does it need to read just this or do l need to put in the webpage? ie www.lneedsunshine/management.html l have done this for all the links on the pages

Thanks very very new to this

Karen Mac · #2 11-20-2008, 08:59 PM

The Title is what will appear at the top of the browser in the blue bar...not the web address but actually in the bar. And your link isnt working for me.

Karen

lneedsunshine · #3 11-20-2008, 09:30 PM

Hi Karen

Sorry just waiting for my account to be set up l have paid for it today. Just reading through the other posts on here and have realised maybe a there are a few things l have not done right maybe. www.lneedsunshine.com/homepage.html is one of my pages l have 12 in all.

Karen Mac · #4 11-20-2008, 09:57 PM

Well if you want your site to show up.. homepage.html wont get it. Needs to be named 'index' You can TITLE it whatever you want.. but that needs to be the page name or it wont come up when someone types www.Ineedsunshine.com

Karen

lneedsunshine · #5 11-21-2008, 11:01 AM

ok what where do you type in index at l have put the following

www.lneedsunshine.com/homepage.html in the URL space on the link tab in the shapes folder?

l have also put just this on the properties page tab under title is that right?
where do l need to put www.lneedsunshine.com/index.html?
Thanks

jkadin · #6 11-21-2008, 11:23 AM

On the 2 urls posted it a placement foder did you publish your index page if not. When you do your index page in the web builder you should save it as index nothing else added and must be in small letter's. When you are doing your index withlinks tou can name it home but the link is http://yourdomain,com no spaces when doing another page it will be the link as http://www.yourdomain.com/yournewpage.html now the home page will link to the new page to put titles that would be in page properties. Hope this helps

lneedsunshine · #7 11-21-2008, 12:08 PM

hi ok l thought that but l cannot change the file name in the web builder site how do you do that? not sure on the rest of what you are saying,
ok the files saved in the webpage builder all have names on them such as things to do is this correct lhave 12 pages when l go into each page in theURL l have put www.lneedsunshine.com/nameofthatpage/hmtl is that right? on every link l have done that, so l need to change the title of my file saved in the blue voda program from homep page to just index nothing else?

karenwms63 · #8 11-21-2008, 12:18 PM

ya need to rename your homepage...index...no caps...and publish.

As far as title, then ya have a new "beast"...seo, or search engine optimization.

If what you were selling or showing on your site is widgets...then your page that shows up when you go to yourdomainname.com (index...again no caps...only index), you would title it "Widgets". Hard to be specific without knowing the ins and outs of your pursuits. If you have a diversified list of products, then the steps you take will NEED planning.

It gets confusing to a new person, names vs titles...names are what you save the page as... and titles are what you put in the properties box of that page as...and to get the best bang for your buck, your domain name should match your title, and the content on your page and should have the same "key" words or phrases as the domain name and title. It gets tricky, or logical, depending on your point of view from here.

It's one thing to publish a page, but to publish a page that will get buyers is another. This is where search engine optimization comes into play.

Good Luck! Don't give up...you will get it!

So first page, so you have something to show for your site = name it index, nothing else, then your other pages would be public_html/whatever-you-name-this-page...

.....no spaces, no caps, and if you prefer underscores(_) as opposed to hyphens (-), keep in mind that is easier to type hyphens,

then bv will automatically add the extension ( .html or .php), default is .html and if you want .php, you will need to change it in the page's property box.

If you don't publish and just save, it will save as .bvp, but that is to save it in the builder, not to publish...

DO NOT ADD AN EXTENSION...to publish.

Cheers!

Marincky · #9 11-21-2008, 12:34 PM

5:34am Friday (CST) - Time in Poplar Bluff, Missouri

Can't you sleep Karen?

lneedsunshine · #10 11-21-2008, 12:50 PM

not giving up yet but got a headache!! ok right l have changed me first page title from Home page to only index nothing else in lower case but the word index do l need to republish?

Marincky · #11 11-21-2008, 12:53 PM

ya

lneedsunshine · #12 11-21-2008, 12:55 PM

ok just done that republished but still not working

www.lneedsunshine.com

arrrg!

Marincky · #13 11-21-2008, 12:59 PM

You need to point your domain to your VH account. Contact whoever you purchased your domain from and have them repoint it, giving them the server details as given to you on your 'welcome' email.

karenwms63 · #14 11-21-2008, 12:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marincky

5:34am Friday (CST) - Time in Poplar Bluff, Missouri

Can't you sleep Karen?

I am on night shift with the mom in law...(why I am in Missouri), and she being 85 yrs old with dementia...and the rest of the crowd (adults, here) have diabetes and have to follow strict guidelines for eating and rest, so I got drafted. Hey...so much for being the healthy one, eh?

Makes the speed bumps make sense, eh?

Gotta love ya, Ramsey, cause if ya didn't care, ya wouldna asked.

Marincky · #15 11-21-2008, 01:01 PM

Well... truth be known.... what first caught my eye was that you lived in Poplar Bluff.... didn't believe that a city could really be called that until I looked it up on the net LOL

I mean... how do you pronounce it?... POPLARBLUFF.. POPLABLUFF...I can't get my tounge around this one...

karenwms63 · #16 11-21-2008, 01:06 PM

LMAO! Ya ain't the only one, LMAO! Didn't know such even existed till I met my hillbilly, God love him! But wouldn't trade for all the riches in the world! But if ya think about it, the hill he was raised on is covered in poplar trees and the town is just below the bluff....LMAO...so much for originality!

karenwms63 · #17 11-21-2008, 01:10 PM

Pronounce it? I gave up last year, these hillbillies don't understand the US english, let alone the queen's english, LMAO! Since we have been here, my hillbilly, uh, hubby, thinks I speak Greek!

karenwms63 · #18 11-21-2008, 01:12 PM

Come to think of it, they even have their own weird way of cleaning their ears and KMac pointed that one out in a joke about a battery being dead...LMAO!

Marincky · #19 11-21-2008, 01:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by karenwms63

Come to think of it, they even have their own weird way of cleaning their ears and KMac pointed that one out in a joke about a battery being dead...LMAO!

LOL... I just read that most people call it just 'The Bluff' ???? makes sense!

Fogive us for chattin on yer thread lneedsunshine, it's only cos we are both sat here waiting to help you... and hey... might as well break the silence...

karenwms63 · #20 11-21-2008, 01:14 PM

Forgive us, Sunshine! Off topic, but all your needs will be addressed. Keep your chin up!

lneedsunshine · #21 11-21-2008, 01:32 PM

ok no worries l am so pleased with my webpage spent ages setting it up, lknow it can only be something silly! but desperate to show my family!!

anyway ok l need to contact enom.com they have my domain name what do l need to give them the ip address? or something?

Marincky · #22 11-21-2008, 01:49 PM

Did you purchase the domain through Voda?

lneedsunshine · #23 11-22-2008, 09:33 AM

morning no l purchased through enom.com an american company what details do l need to give them? does Voda not automatcially direct it?

Karen Mac · #24 11-22-2008, 10:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marincky

Well... truth be known.... what first caught my eye was that you lived in Poplar Bluff.... didn't believe that a city could really be called that until I looked it up on the net LOL

I mean... how do you pronounce it?... POPLARBLUFF.. POPLABLUFF...I can't get my tounge around this one...

Its pronounced POP LAR.. its a TREE like an aspen but smaller not as wispy. So.. the POPLARS grow on the Bluff (hill, mesa, incline, ant hill, trashpile, god only knows in arkansas and missouri)

Karen

Karen Mac · #25 11-22-2008, 10:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lneedsunshine

morning no l purchased through enom.com an american company what details do l need to give them? does Voda not automatcially direct it?

No.. Voda does not automatically direct it. You must login and point it to the servers. They will be something like NS.VODA10.com There will be two of them.. or one.. but you type it twice. They should have given you login info to login and point your domains or manage your domains.

Karen

lneedsunshine · #26 11-22-2008, 10:48 AM

ok l have an account with enom.com for my domain names have gone to settings on my account, it say tick the box define your own host settings so done that it has 3 boxes host type and address ok went to type in ns1.Voda31.com but the first box host wont let me type the whole address in.?

Karen Mac · #27 11-22-2008, 11:34 AM

I dont know .. you will have to ask them.

Karen

lneedsunshine · #28 11-22-2008, 11:49 AM

ok l think l have done but now the page comes up and says index of cgi-bin? do lneed to direct to the voda ip address or the one you gave for my webpage name

lneedsunshine · #29 11-22-2008, 12:05 PM

ok now the page comes up with just the ip address and nothing else and a webpage saying sucess apache is working on your webpage and etc etc
what now l am losing interest slowly but surely

Marincky · #30 11-22-2008, 01:07 PM

Looks ok to me... I see your website

lneedsunshine · #31 11-22-2008, 01:53 PM

FINALLY l got the index page up but none of the others, in my subheadings if you like l did it do the cursor would highlight the wording but this does not work and it says it cannot find the URL l have gone into naviagtion bar and on the general page in the URL l have put www.lneedsunshine.com/changeovers.html but all different for the different headings if you get what l mean? what have l done wrong?

Marincky · #32 11-22-2008, 01:55 PM

You need to publish those pages too. If they are published then check that the names are exactly correct that you are putting in the links.

lneedsunshine · #33 11-22-2008, 02:11 PM

ok doing that now in the URL what do l need to put in only the file name ie the file save in blue voda or the webpage?

lneedsunshine · #34 11-22-2008, 02:56 PM

fed up now been trying to publish my site for the last 6 hours now and to no luck and no help

jcaywood · #35 11-22-2008, 04:11 PM

Have you watched the tutorials?

Everything on this page: http://www.lneedsunshine.com/changeovers.html
is linked to itself except the links read Changeovers.html. The links MUST be exactly the way you have saved the page - and must link to the page you want them to go to. There is a difference between 'changeovers' and 'Changeovers'.
In BV, you create a page and go to File:Save Page As and simply type the name of the page (ie changeovers). That's all you type as the name of the page. BV will save this as 'changeovers.bvp'. When you publish the page it will be published as
http://www.Ineedsunshine.com/changeovers.html
Your link will have to be exactly like this. If your page name is all lower-case, your links must show all lower-case also. (I would suggest you always use lower-case letters for names to avoid confusion). However, be careful since you do have an upper-case letter in your site name.

I can get to some of your pages from index but not all. But on the ones I can get to - changeovers, rentalterms, management,thingstodo) you have no links on them to any other pages. (Also those pages are not centered on the page)
You should have links on every page to every other page and locate them in the same spot on every page. You want to make it easy for the viewer to navigate.

Make sure every link reads exactly the way you have named the page.
Make sure every page has been published
Make sure you have watched the tutorials - more than once
Realize that everyone on here was new at one time, and all are volunteering their time to help you. Making remarks like 'no help' when very knowledgeable people have been replying is not the best way to keep getting help.

In BV, Open each page you have created and find the exact name of that page. Then add 'http://www.Ineedsunshine.com/' in front of that name and then substitute '.html' for '.bvp' and that is your link.

Marincky · #36 11-22-2008, 04:13 PM

You have been getting lots of help!!! You just aren't listening.

Think of your site in terms of navigation.... If you just put the name of the page in the url, how will anyone know it belongs to YOUR website? It really is just a matter of sitting down and using common sense...

If your website is www.lneedsunshie.com then it follows that each page will follow on after the url

www.lneedsunshine.com/pagename1.html
www.lneedsunshine.com/pagename2.html

etc etc etc....

It all follows through very simply when you think about it...

www = world wide web
lneedsunshie.com = the address connected to the www
pagename1 = the page attached to the address attached to the www

The backbone connected to the thigh bone the thigh bone connected to the knee bone the knee bone connected to the... etc etc etc..... Just connect it all up so it links togther...

lneedsunshine · #37 11-22-2008, 06:12 PM

l am thankful for everyones help really and do not wish to sound ungrateful, from my point of view it is frustating for someone like me and thousands of others who has never done anything like this before and want it to work straight away and cannot understand why it wont after you have spent nearly two weeks on your webpage and you cannot view it on the internet and you feel stupid for even asking the sillest of questions. For the record l cannot view the tutorials as much as l want to l live in the campo (countryside) in Southern Spain and l dont have a landline and are using a moblie dial up and the reception is as about much use as a chocolate teapot but l can email and that is it! so trying to download even one of the tutorials will take me a day, l did go to the internet cafe to view how to make the webpage, anyway enough of my chat. l am smiling now l have managed to upload some of the pages and are working on the rest, the only thing l am concerned now is that you say my pages should be linked to each other, how do you do that?

jcaywood · #38 11-22-2008, 06:58 PM

You want someone to be able to get from each of your pages to whichever of your other pages they want to see easily.
You can do it numerous ways: In BV, click on the icons which read 'navigation' or 'menu bar' or 'text menu' and create your links on your home page (index).
Place this in a prominent location of the page (you have them on both sides of the Hello or Hola paragraph on your Home page). Simply put them on the same spot on every page.
Then create a link to each page you have published.
Then open each of your pages (in BV) and from your index page, left-click on that menu and then click Edit - Copy at the top. Then go to the next page and click Edit - Paste. This will put that exact menu on that page in the exact same spot as it is on the index page.
Make sure you have all the links right on the index page before you do this.
After you've done this on a page, create your text for that page working around the menu.
Your top link would probably be to your index page(perhaps HOME since that is common) and that would take the viewer to
http://www.Ineedsunshine.com
The next link might be to your Studios page (which page should be named 'studios' and the link would be http://www.Ineedsunshine.com/studios.html.
Continue that for each page.
The words on the link that show on the page do not have to be what the page is named. For example, your link can show to read "Villas with pools" as long as the LINK is to http://www.Ineed sunshine.com/villaswithpools.html - provided that is what you named the page . You can link any word or phrase.
If you have text on the page you want to link, simply Highlight the text and click on the icon at the top which shows a globe with a chain link under it. Then insert the http://www... for the page link. Then when someone clicks on that word or phrase they will also go to that page.

Then from each of your pages a viewer can click and go to any of the pages and never have to hit the "Back' button on their browser.
Go to anyone's link in their signatures on these posts and you will see there are many ways to do this, but the concept is basically the same.

Marincky · #39 11-22-2008, 07:25 PM

You already have a navigation system set up already at the top of your home page. You have even linked them all up so not sure what you don't understand.

So, for your 'one beds' link you have put:

http://www.lneedsunshine.com/onebeds.html

So, as long as your 'one beds' page is called 'onebeds' it will work, it is that simple really, I think you are trying too hard.

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