Thread: Sitemap For Soho?

Iam trying to genorate a site map for my soholaunch site www.primalleathers.com . Ive tried google sitemap builder and ror sitemap builder. I followed the steps to verifie my site and nothing is working. Does soholaunch build the sitemap automaticaly? I have been working on this for some time now and I dont know what to do, ANY IDEAS?





Randie
www.primalleathers.com

im a little confused as i have looked at you site and your links at the bottom of the page - site map? are all working fine. did you want to do something else. there is a lot of space on your home page between the last item and the bottom - did you want this? let us know if you want somehting else.

Well im wanting to get my site listed in the search engines and was told that I should have a site map to make it easier for the search engines.And yes I would like to get rid of the extra space on my home page and I dont know how to. None of my other pages did that.
Thanks
Randie

Did you upload the site map? You have to up it to the main folder of soho...if its your main domain .. then public_html. You cant upload it via the file manager in soho... well you can upload it.. but you have to change your path...to the file, which defeats the purpose of ALL spiders finding it.

Karen

Karen I am now more confused. Do I need a site map or is it already built in to my website? When I tried to genorate one with google tools I couldnt get it to verifie my site.

Originally Posted by primalleather

Karen I am now more confused. Do I need a site map or mis it already built in to my website? When I tried to genorate one with google tools I couldnt get it to verifie my site.

Using Google Webmaster tools, verifying your website has NOTHING to do with your sitemap.

Follow their very simple instructions for verifying your website by uploading a file to your server in the name that they will issue you.

It is unnecessary to create a sitemap for a dynamic foundation like Soholaunch, a forum, CMS, or the like. They present pages dynamically, and as such, have a totally different manner to orgainze the data (in other words, there are no pages until a command is issued to create one from the stored data according to the parameters as instructed).

Don't worry about this for your Soho! Just remember to be detailed enteing your Categories, Sub-Categories, and Item descriptions to produce the best possible "storable" SE values!

For maximum optimization for Soholaunch, you may wish to select and purchase one of the various MOD's to plug in to fine-tune your DB and static Content. (You'll find these available directly from Soholaunch, and from the recommended Developers who can help install them affordably for you also ... like www.TemplateZappers.com )

I forgot to say... the reason for the verification is simply for you to prove to Google that YOU are the owner or in control of any website and that you have the rights to use their tool for any given website.

Thanks I did try that but it still wouldnt verifie. How exactly do I access my SERVER? Maybe Im missing a step or something

BlueVoda > Tools > FTP. Create the file using a blank notepad, call it the name given to you by Google.

You can also just create a blank BV page, give it the name given to you by Google. But leave OFF the .html bit as BV will automatically do that for you. And publish it

Thanks Vasili, SO you are saying that I dont need to genorate a site map right? Im still trying to figure out how to get rid of the xtra space on my home page, any ideas?

Originally Posted by Vasili

I think you are both missing something here .....

I am replying to why he can't verify his site, I am not replying to his sitemap problem...Google webmaster tools are not just for submitting sitemaps by far. So no I am certainly not missing anything here

Originally Posted by primalleather

Thanks Vasili, SO you are saying that I dont need to genorate a site map right? Im still trying to figure out how to get rid of the xtra space on my home page, any ideas?

Correct. No sitemap need be created. You could look into the MOD's to see if it is worth it to you to ramp up the TAGS for your DB items and stuff, but don't sweat it too much .....

The large space between your last row of items and the footer is due to the original entry you made to define your page: either the number of items you entered to be shown in that category, the number of rows in your "table" or even the size of each pane. Merely go in the Webmaster Panel in Admin and then Edit Page > Index to reset the page parameters.

Well.. I Use a sitemap WITH soho that maps my static pages and I LINK to dynamic pages just without the ? sooo..

You can USE A SITE MAP WITH SOHO.. you can even use an addon to make STATIC pages should you choose to.

If you decide to make one.. you have to upload it via ftp to your server... easiest way is to use the file manager in control panel of your hosting account. You also need to edit your template index page to rel link your site map in the header, and you can also add the google verify tag while you are there.

And not to be a rude monster ... but if you dont use soho i wish youd all just shut up! Because what you DONT Know will get you MAC SLAPPED!

You can also add a plugin that will do your sitemap for you..at the addons site
http://addons.soholaunch.com/plugins...er/seositemaps

Its only ten bucks... geesh.. guess im not the only one who makes sitemaps for soho.

AS for google verify... you can just open notepad, leave it blank and save it as...google900numbersthattheygiveyou.txt and upload it via cpanel of your hosting account in the file manager and google will verify you that way as well.

If you are using google analytics as well.. i recommend you get the plugin at the addon site. You just copy your code into the plugin that practically installs itself and it puts the codes on all your pages..including the https version for the cart.



Karen

Just to clarify things:

It is TRUE that Soho as well as other CMS retrieve the data from the database and then create the page on the fly (dynamic pages).

However, it is ALSO true, that Search Engines CAN follow links with ?page=.... in other words, they CAN see and index dynamic pages, AS LONG AS the full link (with the ?page=.....) is INCLUDED in the Sitemap xml file. The same is valid ALSO for text or image links.

Conclusion: If you have some pages that you believe have good content and are important for your site (in example, the main products pages) then you CAN include them as dynamic links in your sitemap whatever way you create it.

Yes.. I meant &Session id tags.. not The php strings. Ive used site maps with nearly every site I own or build.. no matter what it is.

Karen

Us also...this forum is a php script with two well indexed site maps.

Thank you for all the sitemap information and I think I will be doing that as It just makes sense to have one. From the great information I recieved it should be a sinch.


randie
www.primalleathers.com

I am still trying to create a google site map with google webmaster tools and I can’t seem to figure out how to verify my site. How do you access the root of the home page? google says to insert a Meta tag between the head and table on the root page. You also must verify your site to use their other tools so if someone is familiar with this process please help me out. My site is www.primalleathers.com

Thanks
Randie

Well, I was trying to answer this question before but others interuppted with confusing information.

You want to add a sitemap and google wont let you do that until you verify the site. This is correct.

So to verify your site with them, In the drop down box choose the method 'add a verification file' Or add am html file, I can't remember exactly what it asks.

Open up notepad and give it the name they give you (including the .html bit)

save it to your desktop

Open up BV > Tools > FTP manager and sign in.

Find the desktop on the left of the FTP screen and drag it into your public_html file on the right. Then click 'Verify' on Google

dont use the meta tag insertion, although it works, Google lose the verification every few weeks and keep asking you to do again. Use my method above

Thanks
Will this work for soholaunch or only blue voda? Im not sure where to find BV > Tools > FTP manager and sign in because I use soholaunch.

www.primalleathers.com

oh yeah you got soho haven't you.. forgot! You can always download an FTP client, they always worth having. You can download filezilla, cuteFTP... just do a search for them on Google. OR..... If you don't want to do that and you act quickly cos it's nearly 2am here and email me your log in and server details and the google code I'll do it for you in 10 seconds? You can find my email in my sig below, it's up to you.

OK Ramsey Im now verified with Google thanks to your help. It might help others with the same problem if you could explain , in dummy language, how you can verify a soholaunch site in google webmaster tools.

Thank you
www.primalleathers.com

Well most of us in the biz been doing it and this really doesnt get asked much. Its pretty well explained in google how to do it...either the meta tag or a text file. YOu can upload the text file in soho file manager, and just give google the link for it.. NOTHING dramatic about it.

Karen

Well after I was verified I submited my url to create a sitemap and after 3 tries I keep getting a

HTTP Error:
Problem detected on:404 (Not found)

Feb 12, 2009

and I cant find any info on what is wrong or how to fix it.

Randie
www.primalleathers.com

What do you mean you submitted your url to make a sitemap? Submitted to who? You dont submit your site to google and get a sitemap.. you have to use a sitemap generator, get the map, and then upload it to your site..and then just give google the url where it resides.

Karen

Hi Karen,
It was with google webmaster tools


Statistics

Links

Sitemaps

Overview
Tools

Sitemaps


After I submit it reads HTTP Error:
Problem detected on:404 (Not found)

Feb 13, 2009
Randie
www.primalleathers.com

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You have to first use a program .. OTHER THAN GOOGLE.. to CREATE THE SITEMAP.

2. UPLOAD IT TO YOUR SITE

3... Tell google WHERE on your site you UPLOADED IT TO..

Karen

Look.. I just learned you are being purposely OBTUSE and already have your sitemap in place. This is wasting mine and everyone elses time. Thread LOCKED.. and dont do it again.