uk law bonkers

artfuldodger · #1 02-28-2008, 12:48 AM

i live in the uk and the law in my country is bonkers heres why.
2 days ago i caught i prowler trying to enter my house he also had a srew driver which he could use as a weapon. as a martial arts expert i took him down while my wife called the police.when they arrived i explained what had happened ,what i got in reply had shocked me,they told me i could be arrested for assult as i could have used deadly force as i was trained in the martial arts i could not belive it when they let him go right in front of me.i told them if he returns and enters my house i will take him down to protect my wife and son,the police told me i can you resonable force.if a prowler got into my house armed i will use deadly force i told them.they left my house saying you do that you will be in serious trouble.our law is wrong

AJ113 · #2 02-28-2008, 08:42 AM

Too right! Anyone who invades your property and threatens the security of you and your family deserves whatever comes their way IMO. There's no wonder Blighty is sinking fast with half-arsed namby pamby laws like that.

Collectors-info · #3 02-28-2008, 10:21 AM

Sorry to here about your experience. But please don't use martial arts if you have something like a bat that you could use. This will save you the possibility of hurting yourself.
In preference, Don’t call the police as this in an offense they wont make money from (like parking in the wrong place)
If you get a chance apprehend the prowler tie them to the nearest public lamp post & leave a note on them to say what they have done. Some others in the street may of had similar problem & might like a friendly chat.
This may also deter others from doing this type of thing.

limebrook1 · #4 02-28-2008, 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Collectors-info

Sorry to here about your experience. But please don't use martial arts if you have something like a bat that you could use. This will save you the possibility of hurting yourself.

ROFLMAO!

artfuldodger · #5 02-28-2008, 02:26 PM

our law in the uk is wrong how can they let a prowler go when he has a screw driver in his hand but say they would arrest me if i use force yeah right i'll stand there and go ahead mate rob my house i don't think so.

artfuldodger · #6 02-28-2008, 02:36 PM

i'd tar and feather him next time lol

sedona · #7 02-28-2008, 03:29 PM

We occasionally have problems with mountain lions where we live. When food dries up in the winter they start coming into town and snacking on kitty cats, sometimes becoming enboldened and moving up the food chain. Fortunately the last attack on a child was some years ago.

Now, a mountain lion hunting permit can be obtained but it is illegal to shoot an animal on your own property if it within the boundaries of the city.

Guess what? A mountain lion comes on my land and threatens my animals I shoot him. We sort it out later while I pet my dog.

Marincky · #8 02-28-2008, 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Collectors-info

Sorry to here about your experience. But please don't use martial arts if you have something like a bat that you could use. This will save you the possibility of hurting yourself.
In preference, Don’t call the police as this in an offense they wont make money from (like parking in the wrong place)
If you get a chance apprehend the prowler tie them to the nearest public lamp post & leave a note on them to say what they have done. Some others in the street may of had similar problem & might like a friendly chat.
This may also deter others from doing this type of thing.

Although, very funny... I totally agree 100%. I am certain that if an intruder broke into my house, I would hit him with whatever force it would take to knock him unconcious at the very least. I would then have no hesitation in tying a slab of concrete to him and throwing him in the nearest river and then just saying nothing about it to anyone.

As far as I am concerned, anyone entering onto my property with the intent of stealing or possibly causing harm to me and my family would have waivered ALL his rights to remain alive!! It's that simple!!

This is just one of MANY reasons I am building up my revenue to leave the UK, we have far too many idiots in charge who allow criminals to have rights and children who can't be disciplined.

I love watching all these American blockbusters where the intruder breaks into the house, the owner get's his shotgun and blasts his head off and the police just come round, don't ask one single question about what has gone on, cart the body away and the family carry on with their thanksgiving meal as if nothing had happened.... (Does it really happen like that?)

sedona · #9 02-28-2008, 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Marincky

I love watching all these American blockbusters where the intruder breaks into the house, the owner get's his shotgun and blasts his head off and the police just come round, don't ask one single question about what has gone on, cart the body away and the family carry on with their thanksgiving meal as if nothing had happened.... (Does it really happen like that?)

Hey Ramsy,

Well, yeah. I think here as long as you can demonstrate you were, in fact, defending yourself, your family, and/or your property you'll probably be ok. You might be in a bit of trouble if your weapon wasn't registered or the like but like my mountain lion story, personally I'll do what I think necessary and take my chances with the consequences.

Marincky · #10 02-28-2008, 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by sedona

Hey Ramsy,

Well, yeah. I think here as long as you can demonstrate you were, in fact, defending yourself, your family, and/or your property you'll probably be ok. You might be in a bit of trouble if your weapon wasn't registered or the like but like my mountain lion story, personally I'll do what I think necessary and take my chances with the consequences.

I don't blame you Ken, I would do the same. I don't think we will ever have the law changed over here that would allow guns to be issued as freely as you have over there.. more's the pity!

sedona · #11 02-28-2008, 05:03 PM

[quote=Marincky;215849]This is just one of MANY reasons I am building up my revenue to leave the UK, we have far too many idiots in charge who allow criminals to have rights and children who can't be disciplined. /quote]

You know, Ramsey, my wife is from the UK, here just about 2 years now. Sorry to tell you this but there are many bits about the US way of doing things that drive her bonkers and have her pining for merry old England and what is most familiar to her.

There is no nirvana on earth...

(and, oh yeah, she thinks American kids should all be sent to a large island until adulthood lol)

judavvforum · #12 02-28-2008, 05:06 PM

Well, Ramsey it is not quite like that! But if you come to America for some relief from STUPID laws; better decide to come West of the Mississippi River!

The eastern half of the US, (except for a very few Southern states), have laws very much like the UK!

The West US is still a bit wild; but they are rapidly trying to put STUPID laws into place here, too!

Marincky · #13 02-28-2008, 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Marincky

This is just one of MANY reasons I am building up my revenue to leave the UK, we have far too many idiots in charge who allow criminals to have rights and children who can't be disciplined. /quote]

You know, Ramsey, my wife is from the UK, here just about 2 years now. Sorry to tell you this but there are many bits about the US way of doing things that drive her bonkers and have her pining for merry old England and what is most familiar to her.

There is no nirvana on earth...

(and, oh yeah, she thinks American kids should all be sent to a large island until adulthood lol)

I guess it's what you are used to, and getting used to a new way of life is not a walk in the park by any means, having said that I can't think of one single thing I would miss about the UK.

sedona · #14 02-28-2008, 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by judavvforum

Well, Ramsey it is not quite like that! But if you come to America for some relief from STUPID laws; better decide to come West of the Mississippi River!

Hi Dave,

Well of course I was referring to America Out West where we live...

Marincky · #15 02-28-2008, 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by sedona

(and, oh yeah, she thinks American kids should all be sent to a large island until adulthood lol)

I used to be a coach driver and on a couple of occasions had to pick up some American teenagers from the airport and spend one or two weeks away with them on a coach tour. I can tell you that your kids put ours very much to shame. I am sure there is good and bad everywhere but it was just nice to spend some time with these guys, the respect, their mannners, and their maturity is definitely something missing here.

karel · #16 02-28-2008, 09:27 PM

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I used to be a coach driver and on a couple of occasions had to pick up some American teenagers from the airport and spend one or two weeks away with them on a coach tour. I can tell you that your kids put ours very much to shame. I am sure there is good and bad everywhere but it was just nice to spend some time with these guys, the respect, their mannners, and their maturity is definitely something missing here.

So true.....It does not help that now seems to be a career option to be a single parent and each of these kids have no family structure, I hear their mother swearing at them, letting them roam around in the middle of the night, just get them out of the house so they can watch those brain dead chat shows through the day. Is it any wonder they end up like they do. I knew that if I did something wrong wither my father or someone would make me pay for my actions.

That's before we even start with the stupid soft laws we have, they know for a fact that nothing will happen to them, respect and laws have gone, no one seems to care, certainly not the people in charge who are so far away from the problem they are blind, you would see a difference if it was on their own doorsteps.

Rant over.