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**judavvforum** · 07-13-2008, 05:42 AM

Re: please help!! paypal button malfunction(s)

<form target="PayPal" action="https://www.sandbox.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr" method="post">
Mark...I'm not an expert in html coding, but I believe the word in red should not be there! I don't know a lot about the PayPal "Sandbox" feature, but I believe it is only for testing your PayPal button operation before actually publishing the page. I think it allows you to go completely thru the "Buy Now" process, including payment and receiving a purchase report from PayPal. BUT, it is all not real. Just a make-believe purchase. No charge on the credit card, etc.

I would suggest that you load one of the "old Pages" into BV and just copy one of the buttons that does work. Then you can preview the page and try the button. Of course you don't want to go thru the entire purchase process, but that would tell you if I'm right.

Don't save the altered page til you see the PayPal button works!

Edit: As an after thought...If you would try to break up your paragraphs, they would be easier and faster to read especially for us really old fellows!

**logstolumber** · 07-13-2008, 03:49 PM

Re: Paypal button installed properly but only refreshing page???

Dave,thankyou so much for the kind reply.I regret to inform you that after trying to copy from one of the old pages I have the same issue.This is one of the first things I tried to do.
As simple as I am with this I tried by get to the issue by process of of elimination and down the list I went.

I realize this is stumping some people....even the trouble ticket guys are sending me links to the PayPal button installation tutorial.

As far as the "sandbox" that you see in the code,that was added yesterday(well after this issue started) after trying to install the first button with bv10.It should still do something more than refresh the page,even if it is a "make believe" transaction.It should at least appear to link to the paypal site.

This next paragraph is not directed to anyone,just a thought of mine...

I'm still at a loss,I realize how easy it could be to read my plea and have the assumption that I'm just another guy who didn't read or listen to the tutorials.I spent a good part of my life while putting the site together over the last several months doing nothing but watching tutorials and reading.I may have missed something but it wasn't in the PayPal button setup tutorial,in fact I can lipsync that tutorial,I seen it so many times..

Dave,Thankyou for your comments and observations.I apologize to you and the older fellas about the long winded novel that wasn't "broken up into paragraph form".
I can't express in this forum how grateful I am that someone cared enough to offer up to this challange of mine... Any other comments or observations are welcome..I am desperate for a remedy!
Thanks again,Mark

**mrmagoo144** · 07-13-2008, 04:02 PM

Re: Paypal buttons

well are you using the paypal generated code or are you using the BV pay pal buttons? that would be my first question. i use only the Pay pal generated code and copy and paste in a html box. examples of this are here:
www.patsmelkoff.com/teachingschedule.html
these work great and you can look at the source code and compare it to the source code you are using.
the second thought i have is why don't you upload the newest version of bv. you state bv10 in your short novel. relax, just kidding
hope this helps,
mrmagoo144

https://www.videopostcards.info

**logstolumber** · 07-13-2008, 04:16 PM

Re: Paypal buttons

mrmagoo,
yes I tried both,the paypal generated and the bv and the results are the same. I have gone back and back and back...and thats whats led me to the forum...
Clicking the button doesn't even open up a new window....just refresh's the page...leave it to me to have something come up that is not understandable or even remotely easy to fix.Thats my MO!!
Thanks for the "stab" at installing the "newer" version...that was better than the first cup of coffee!!!
Mark

**judavvforum** · 07-13-2008, 04:28 PM

Re: Paypal buttons

Sorry that didn't help you out! I compared your PayPal button code with one of mine and that is what I saw as the major difference!

I'm pretty sure that "sandbox" code should not be in a final operating form. But it is true; it should still do more than "refresh" your page!

Here is another questionable code compared to mine:
Mine: (<input type="hidden" name="currency_code" value="USD">
<input type="hidden" name="lc" value="US">
<input type="hidden" name="bn" value="PP-ShopCartBF">
</form></div> (<<Notice this is the end of my button code)
<div id="bv_" style="position:absolute;left:380px

Yours:
<input type="hidden" name="bn" value="PP-ShopCartBF">
</form></div> (<< should be the end of the button coding)
</form></div> (But this follows the end and may be "confusing the button action!)

Try editing that out of the code and see what happens. If it doesn't work...you can always re-copy the button to get back to this point. Just be sure not to "save" this page until you hit on what made it work!

You can "preview" any changes to see if the button works.

Another thought: That coding that I showed you where you have two incidences of</form></div> seems to indicate you have your PP button installed "inside" another form! But I really can't see the start of the other form!

**logstolumber** · 07-13-2008, 04:45 PM

Re: Paypal buttons

This is the exact same line that the PayPal tech found peculiar..Two closers,right? I do not know code but I understand what you are telling me..He recommended that I NOT edit til I spoke with someone here about it.
I just read the rest of your post..You lost me at "form" what are you asking me? I wonder if there is something I did in the site design that was incorrect like maybe the green boxes in the background of the text.Those are the only forms I know of...It looked good at the time but if it was a recipe for a monster I wouldn't know.... Mark

**judavvforum** · 07-13-2008, 05:05 PM

Re: Paypal buttons

Mark
Another major difference between our codes is that yours has no "return" url in the button and no "cancel" url.
Here's a copy of mine....maybe you could put that coding into the button and see if it works. (Or maybe just go back to PayPal and re-create the "add to Cart button".
<input type="hidden" name="return" value="http://www.birdhouses2luv.com/thankyou.html">
<input type="hidden" name="cancel_return" value="http://www.birdhouses2luv.com/sorry.html">
Just replace with your urls.

EDIT: I just caught you last post and FYI I altered one of my buttons with that </form></div> code and my button still worked! So probably not the culprit!

**logstolumber** · 07-13-2008, 05:13 PM

Re: Paypal buttons

yes,the last button I installed I didn't put the info in for where to send the successful and canceled payments.I'll go ahead and change it back and republish but it won't fix the issue.It's just something different I tried compared to the usual.I shoulda thought about that before I asked you to read the source code...
I'm going to take a closer look at editing out that line....what do you think?I mean worse case scenario just republish the page right?

Dave, I just republished that page with a BV button instead of the paypal generated button.All info is entered correctly and same issue..Have you noticed that it does not open up a seperate window too..Could this be of importance? Thanks again for your help,I'm sincerely grateful! Mark

**judavvforum** · 07-13-2008, 05:25 PM

Re: Paypal buttons

At this point I would recommend going back to PayPal and recreate the add to cart button. You can do that as often as you need to. Then just reinstall it on your page. Preview it and see if it then works. If it does; republish. No biggy...it will just overwrite the page that isn't working.

I've got to go clean house and yard work, so don't think I bailed out on you! I'll check back occassionally! There are others that are much more experienced than I who will probably jump in to help also! Talk later!

**mrmagoo144** · 07-13-2008, 05:58 PM

Re: Paypal buttons

your pay pal buttons will not work if you put the button inside a form. you have it inside the green box form. i have copied your page and put my add to cart button outside the form and it works fine.
here is the link:
www.videopostcards.info/test300.html
mrmagoo144

https://www.videopostcards.info

**logstolumber** · 07-13-2008, 06:13 PM

Re: Paypal buttons

Dave , I deleted the old button and regenerated a new one from paypal....same results. I forwarded the file for the freeformslabs page to a mutual friend of ours from the threads and he's lookin' it over....I have a feeling he'll nip it in the bud but I know he's extremely busy and it might be some time before getting back to me. 6 hr timezone difference and whatever work he's got lying in front of him.....doesn't make me a priority,and I shouldn't be either! I'm grateful he even asked I send it...but I'll keep taking stabs at it until we've exhausted all efforts...I still have not tried to edit that code you found,you know, the extra </form> or whatever the heck it was....don't know if I should tinker with it or not til I hear back from the other side of the pond...... Thanks again for hangin' in there with me....I'll check back often..... anyone else with input,please share it. I'm still in need of a fix. Mark

**logstolumber** · 07-13-2008, 06:20 PM

Re: Paypal buttons

mrmagoo,,are you kidding me???? No,your not(i just saw it)I asked that question too up alittle in the field...Why is that? and what can I do to make my site look like it does right now and function the way it's supposed to. Man,I'm really not surprised....I knew it was me! Just poor design.....Thankyou for your help,now I have a new issue(s),huh? Any recommendations?
I just did what you did and your absolutely right!!It works just fine like it used too..Heres what threw me,There is a PayPal link at the bottom of the page that works fine.It's not a BIN button or ATC button but it works so I didn't suspect.My experience shows here,I'm sure and thats why I posted.Thankyou very very much to you and Dave! I'm very excited and impressed....I would still be interested in any recommendations you might have to fix my situation.I like the look,I don't know how I can keep the look and get the buttons to work where I want them too..can the buttons be placed in textboxes or ontop of pic's that are on top of forms?
Thanks again for the action,I love you ,man!!! Mark

**mrmagoo144** · 07-13-2008, 06:48 PM

Re: Paypal buttons

no as long as you have the button in a form it willnot work.
why do you have a form there anyway?
usually you want to use a form if you are going to move a lot of elements from one place to another on the same page. i will work on your page without the form and see what happens and how it looks. the form doesnt help the appearance of a page.
mrmagoo144
videopostcards.info

**Marincky** · 07-13-2008, 06:53 PM

Re: Paypal buttons

Mark,

I fixed it for you, but IGNORE the file I sent you in the first email, I just resent you another email with your page attached. Use this one please.

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