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nothingnew
05-14-2006, 10:24 PM
Using all correct data entry I cannot get a linked page to link onward to another succeeding page. I've verified the URL; saved and published backwards and forwards, making sure all pages were published. The strange thing is that the preview in browser works fine. Dale

Girlonthehill
05-14-2006, 10:28 PM
Dale, post your URL so someone can have a look for you :o)

nothingnew
05-15-2006, 12:53 AM
Dale, post your URL so someone can have a look for you :o) The Uniform Resource Language for Dale DeWitt is www.daledewitt.com

Andy128
05-15-2006, 01:35 AM
dale,

Your first page is index and appears just fine when your URL is called.

Your "Above the Beach" link opens to html page with picture on it- a very large picture. Other pictures are also on an html page. So it appears that your linking is working.

However- it is very difficult to navigate your site. I would suggest that you create some sort of menu and link to the pages with pictures on them from that menu. Also- it is most popular to keep your web pages with in 800 pixels wide and then re-size your photos to fit on that page. Here is a link to tutorials / examples on picture display;
http://netisopen.com/computer/PICT001/PT001.html

Once you create pages- link to them as you already are only via a menu of some sort. I really don't understand your comment of linking to a succeeding page. On the bottom of the BV web builder there are video tutorials that are very helpful and explain many things in detail.

Hope that is of some help.

Andy

nothingnew
05-15-2006, 01:52 AM
dale,

Your first page is index and appears just fine when your URL is called.

Your "Above the Beach" link opens to html page with picture on it- a very large picture. Other pictures are also on an html page. So it appears that your linking is working.

However- it is very difficult to navigate your site. I would suggest that you create some sort of menu and link to the pages with pictures on them from that menu. Also- it is most popular to keep your web pages with in 800 pixels wide and then re-size your photos to fit on that page. Here is a link to tutorials / examples on picture display;
http://netisopen.com/computer/PICT001/PT001.html

Once you create pages- link to them as you already are only via a menu of some sort. I really don't understand your comment of linking to a succeeding page. On the bottom of the BV web builder there are video tutorials that are very helpful and explain many things in detail.

Hope that is of some help.

Andy Thanks for the multitude of kind suggestions. I hope you can tell the site is a prelimiinary experiment. I'll get to resizing the pictures later as well as compacting with a single hub page. What you didn't notice was that the last desert satellite photo was intended to link to another snow peak picture. I was thinking maybe since it was a linked picture, that maybe it couldn't link futher. That's the question I was alluding to.

Andy128
05-15-2006, 06:09 AM
Dale,

It appears that you have placed one picture per page and then link one picture to the next page that another picture is on.... Then the viewer clicks on that picture and is linked to another page with a picture on it.

So you go: picture > page picture > page picture > page etc...

Yes- you can do this forever if you wish.


Andy

navaldesign
05-15-2006, 06:09 PM
That's how Robinson Crusoe got lost...

nothingnew
05-15-2006, 08:29 PM
That's how Robinson Crusoe got lost... That wise truism aside, I'm trying to bask in a pallete of unconvention. I just want to create a mess and then organize as curators do to modern art?

Girlonthehill
05-15-2006, 08:37 PM
That wise truism aside, I'm trying to bask in a pallete of unconvention. I just want to create a mess and then organize as curators do to modern art?
It sounds like you're planning to have some whacky fun with your site, but remember that your viewers may feel uncomfortable in a site that is difficult to navigate. I wouldn't stay around. Just a thought.... Good luck.

nothingnew
05-15-2006, 08:40 PM
Dale,

It appears that you have placed one picture per page and then link one picture to the next page that another picture is on.... Then the viewer clicks on that picture and is linked to another page with a picture on it.

So you go: picture > page picture > page picture > page etc...

Yes- you can do this forever if you wish.


AndyI had the account reset from a Soholauch bungled download . . . and since the web page was only in directory form I decided to reconstruct using a drop down menu as you had hinted for my sound/pictures pages. I wasn't able to extend the sound outside the immediate sound/page as originally I was able to do. But at least when killing the last linked page all pages were removed in one fell swoop. (alas, it was nice having the sound follow me as I meandered (or got lost) moving from link to link))

I was able to look at your homepage and found a lot of web rot. I especially enjoyed your alternate periodic table of elements.

Thanks for the input. Dale

nothingnew
05-15-2006, 08:49 PM
It sounds like you're planning to have some whacky fun with your site, but remember that your viewers may feel uncomfortable in a site that is difficult to navigate. I wouldn't stay around. Just a thought.... Good luck. Objective input is appreciated. That's what allows for natural selection to change the scenery. Your obviously right when shopping. I'm probably more impatient with site esthetic/speed of manipulation than most. I just want to get the functions mastered right now. (I like blunt impression, some do not; )

navaldesign
05-16-2006, 06:35 AM
The meaning of my comment, was that people who surf the net want to get information, or buy something, or just have fun. But all surfers want to have controll of what they are doing. Which means that they will probably not like the fact that they will have to follow a pre-determined tour on your site, and that's excactly what you are getting if you use such a navigation. Suppose that you have 100 pages with 100 images on your site. Will you oblige them to follow all the pages to get, let's say to the last 10 ones? And if they have found interesting the 20th one, will they have to go ahead to the 100th, and then again from 1 to 20 ? They will abbandon your site in 30 seconds.
Leaving appart the choice, which is your's and no one else's, if you want to have the background music continue, just use one page, make an Iframe in it, and get the rest of the content in the iframe.

nothingnew
05-16-2006, 10:33 PM
The meaning of my comment, was that people who surf the net want to get information, or buy something, or just have fun. But all surfers want to have controll of what they are doing. Which means that they will probably not like the fact that they will have to follow a pre-determined tour on your site, and that's excactly what you are getting if you use such a navigation. Suppose that you have 100 pages with 100 images on your site. Will you oblige them to follow all the pages to get, let's say to the last 10 ones? And if they have found interesting the 20th one, will they have to go ahead to the 100th, and then again from 1 to 20 ? They will abbandon your site in 30 seconds.
Leaving appart the choice, which is your's and no one else's, if you want to have the background music continue, just use one page, make an Iframe in it, and get the rest of the content in the iframe.I've got a quick question in terms of the go menu. If I load mp3's to the public_HTML folder in my account FTP is there a way to link directly to those files, say just as the video tutorial did for linking to Google. Or, do I have to link to a published page where the media player is residing with the mp3 file? I ask this because from the Go Menu Properties box, when one clicks Add, the Add Go Menu Item pops up and one can then Browse for a file. Clicking this gives one to believe most all file types can be linked . . . and voila, my mp3 file is such. But, after experimenting with this all I'd found was that the Go Menu would not publish, plain and simple. Even loaded with the mp3 links it would appear without functionality in the preview in browser and would absolutely not publish. FTP being preloaded with the mp3 files in the correct folder. (i.e., public_HTML)

I'm working on the navigation issue since I hearily agree that desert islands can be lonely. Conversely, most programming takes place when someone tells you something cannot be done this or that way. Now as to the issue of control in surfing. I started out with the idea of making sure images were clickable. (Luckily I've not been eaten by any hungary cats just yet.) Discount my method for one reason alone. I want to experiment. The fact of my methodology is that I want some element of surprise. I don't want to give that up completely. One last question. What is an Iframe? Dale

nothingnew
05-17-2006, 04:42 AM
Forget the question on Iframes. I didn't see where it was in the tutorials.

navaldesign
05-17-2006, 06:15 AM
I've got a quick question in terms of the go menu. If I load mp3's to the public_HTML folder in my account FTP is there a way to link directly to those files, say just as the video tutorial did for linking to Google. Or, do I have to link to a published page where the media player is residing with the mp3 file? I ask this because from the Go Menu Properties box, when one clicks Add, the Add Go Menu Item pops up and one can then Browse for a file. Clicking this gives one to believe most all file types can be linked . . . and voila, my mp3 file is such. But, after experimenting with this all I'd found was that the Go Menu would not publish, plain and simple. Even loaded with the mp3 links it would appear without functionality in the preview in browser and would absolutely not publish. FTP being preloaded with the mp3 files in the correct folder. (i.e., public_HTML)

I'm working on the navigation issue since I hearily agree that desert islands can be lonely. Conversely, most programming takes place when someone tells you something cannot be done this or that way. Now as to the issue of control in surfing. I started out with the idea of making sure images were clickable. (Luckily I've not been eaten by any hungary cats just yet.) Discount my method for one reason alone. I want to experiment. The fact of my methodology is that I want some element of surprise. I don't want to give that up completely. One last question. What is an Iframe? Dale

For MP3s: upload the single mp3 files on your site, using BlueFTP. They don't necessarily have to be in public_html, for organisation purposes you can also create a folder where to upload your mp3s. Then just link them, through a Go Menu, or text links, or whatever else you want, even images. The link should be: http://www.yoursite.com/mp3folder/mp3name.pm3 changing "mp3folder" with the actuall folder name (if you use one) and "mp3name" with thw actuall name of your mp3 file. The same goes also for any other kind of files. When they click on the link, the file will be opened in their media player.

nothingnew
05-17-2006, 06:37 PM
For MP3s: upload the single mp3 files on your site, using BlueFTP. They don't necessarily have to be in public_html, for organisation purposes you can also create a folder where to upload your mp3s. Then just link them, through a Go Menu, or text links, or whatever else you want, even images. The link should be: http://www.yoursite.com/mp3folder/mp3name.pm3 changing "mp3folder" with the actuall folder name (if you use one) and "mp3name" with thw actuall name of your mp3 file. The same goes also for any other kind of files. When they click on the link, the file will be opened in their media player.
http://www.daledewitt.com/ftp mp3/Saturn.mp3.mp3 is what I put into a go menu and the server spit out Not Acceptable (i.e., nothing found as such). (I renamed the mp3 file to shorten it in the ftp directory.) I also changed the pm3 extension you'd wrote above to .mp3 but that didn't solve anything. Double clicking the ftp file pulls up my Winamp media player with this directory entry
C:\DOCUME~1\Owner\LOCALS~1\Temp\Saturn.mp3.
I'm stumped. Dale

navaldesign
05-17-2006, 08:26 PM
pm3 has just been a typing error of mine. It should be .mp3
Please do as follows: create a folder in your public_html, called "mp3folder".
Upload your "Saturn.mp3" file in this folder. Then use this link:
http://www.daledewitt.com/mp3folder/Saturn.mp3 (http://www.daledewitt.com/mp3folder/Saturn.mp3)

If it still doesn't work, please use my form (http://www.navaldesign.info/feedback13.html)to provide me your loggin info so i can have a look.

nothingnew
05-19-2006, 04:55 AM
I think this comment could pertain to a lot of problems but from my reading of Mozilla Composer's instructions one could save a bit of grief by renaming files prior to using them. The symbols to use are letters and numbers without spaces and other sensitive characters. Another useful suggestion from those authors was that of just publishing the page first and then tacking on the links later. That way the path is preestablished and there's less chance for error. I'll build on this thought as follow it through to its conclusion. Dale

nothingnew
05-19-2006, 06:53 AM
Say if I have a link-picture/audio page and want to keep the audio (i.e., keep the page) -----while I link from that link-page to any number of separate pictures. It sounds good on paper but I don't know how to do it without destroying my original link page.

navaldesign
05-19-2006, 07:00 AM
Create a I frame in your page. The links should be OUTSIDE the frame. Set the link target to be the frame, so the pictures will open in the frame. This way the background music will go on while they are looking at your pics. It is obvious that this can't be done with audio files, first because the audio files are opened in their media player, and second because you don't really want them to listen to the background music at the same time that they listen your audio file.

nothingnew
05-19-2006, 08:25 PM
Create a I frame in your page. The links should be OUTSIDE the frame. Set the link target to be the frame, so the pictures will open in the frame. This way the background music will go on while they are looking at your pics. It is obvious that this can't be done with audio files, first because the audio files are opened in their media player, and second because you don't really want them to listen to the background music at the same time that they listen your audio file.I suppose that works but I just don't like the side by side look. I really want to be able to depart from that page yet still keep the original link running; then come back to it when finished exploring the other picture only links. Are there any other link related functions that you can think of which might be worth trying?

navaldesign
05-19-2006, 08:36 PM
Dale, what EXCACTLY you want to do? if you explain better, one could better help you. Keeping the initial page alive means that you must either put the picks inan I frame, or pop them up in new windows, in order for your initial page to stay open. If you want more specific advise, create a page with the layout you want, and publish it so we can have a look and adise you on the way to go.

nothingnew
05-19-2006, 09:22 PM
Dale, what EXCACTLY you want to do? if you explain better, one could better help you. Keeping the initial page alive means that you must either put the picks inan I frame, or pop them up in new windows, in order for your initial page to stay open. If you want more specific advise, create a page with the layout you want, and publish it so we can have a look and adise you on the way to go.I found it. The Photo Gallery. I click the picture (in a new browser) and it goes while retaining the sound from the 'Mother' link-page.

nothingnew
05-19-2006, 09:27 PM
Dale, what EXCACTLY you want to do? if you explain better, one could better help you. Keeping the initial page alive means that you must either put the picks inan I frame, or pop them up in new windows, in order for your initial page to stay open. If you want more specific advise, create a page with the layout you want, and publish it so we can have a look and adise you on the way to go.http://www.daledewitt.com/Mars.html

navaldesign
05-19-2006, 09:38 PM
Yes, that's what i meant when i talked about pics to open in popups