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    Thumbs up Setting Page Guides

    Not so much a tip, more of a must do! ..especially if your a beginner like me, this has saved me more time and hard work than anything else.

    If you do this when you first open a page in BV web builder it will save you a lot of time consumming work later on.

    Step1. Open up page in BV web builder

    Step2. Go to Layout at the top of the page next to tools.

    Step3. Scroll down to guide settings.

    Step4. Tick box that says "show guide borders" theres also a grid, I use both.

    Step5. Set page width to 800 x600 tho the (600) length isnt that important.

    Step6. Click ok... your done

    Now when you look at your page you will see a dotted line around the area you need to work within.

    The dotted line at the bottom isnt so important as its better to have to scroll up and down rather than from side to side (sideways scroll)

    The dotted line to the right of your page is the one to look out for, keep all your work, Images, text, shapes, etc to the left or just on the dotted line. and you will never have a sidways scroll and always check your page width before saving

    Hope this helps you as it has helped me
    Click the link below for page guidelines (no more sideways scroll)

    http://www.vodahost.com/vodatalk/sho...eferrerid=5490

    How to Center your page
    http://www.vodahost.com/vodatalk/blu...tml#post124746





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    Thank you David.. i hope so...it did me
    Click the link below for page guidelines (no more sideways scroll)

    http://www.vodahost.com/vodatalk/sho...eferrerid=5490

    How to Center your page
    http://www.vodahost.com/vodatalk/blu...tml#post124746





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    Default Re: Setting Page Guides

    I set the guide lines up and now it looks like i need to reduce my page by 25% in width...so how come it looks ok in my browser?

    Oh dear, i think it's way past my bedtime, i have a funny feeling there's gonna be a very simple solution that i'm just not seeing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by xxjanxx
    I set the guide lines up and now it looks like i need to reduce my page by 25% in width...so how come it looks ok in my browser?

    Oh dear, i think it's way past my bedtime, i have a funny feeling there's gonna be a very simple solution that i'm just not seeing.
    Different people have their pc display settings set to different resolutions. That is why it looks different from one to another. The best way around this is, as Linda says, to use a page width of 800 px and centre it. You build your page butt up to the left hand side and chose 'centre in browser' on the page properties tab. That way whoever looks will see a neat site in the centre of their browser. (To see the effect take a quick peek at mine).

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    Ive done all of the instructions and my question is what if the page layout is larger than that...I have somethings that are wider than the allowed 800 like the header for example...
    Its funny that this is here as my nephew was very put off when he had to scroll side to side...he said that he just doesnt bother with it, if he can see it imediately he doesnt look!

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    Same here Kate lol ...its my pet hate that why i did this ... you cant make your banner smaller or get smaller buttons? ... you have a big space on your home page that doesnt need the heading changed ...just keep inside of the line on the right.. you can always go down the page ...people dont mind scrolling downwards ...try it ...:o)
    Click the link below for page guidelines (no more sideways scroll)

    http://www.vodahost.com/vodatalk/sho...eferrerid=5490

    How to Center your page
    http://www.vodahost.com/vodatalk/blu...tml#post124746





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    For some reason Im having a hard time understanding why I cant reset my original web page. (index.html)...I have started a "new" index and its going fine! and fits the screen/so side scroll all that!..but I have tried several ways to lesson the original and it just doesnt do it..funny stuff!
    GREAT NEW SITE BUILDER!...downloaded and using it now!

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    You'll get there Kate ;o)
    Click the link below for page guidelines (no more sideways scroll)

    http://www.vodahost.com/vodatalk/sho...eferrerid=5490

    How to Center your page
    http://www.vodahost.com/vodatalk/blu...tml#post124746





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    Hey check it out! I think I figured it out and for my puter in IE,Firefox, and Aol it looks ok!

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    Thank you Linda,

    I wish the fat pages would all go away. I didn't understand about the setting till I had already started publishing my site. I tried to do the same thing by Keeping everything to the left, and now I have space to the right
    for adds. Now any adds that might distract from the text can only be seen by scrolling. I hope no potential add agents read this declaration. but after all, the page you make is like a movie and the adds are like comercials, just a nesessary evil. one that shouldn't distract.

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    Smile Re: Setting Page Guides

    Quote Originally Posted by Girlonthehill
    Different people have their pc display settings set to different resolutions. That is why it looks different from one to another. The best way around this is, as Linda says, to use a page width of 800 px and centre it. You build your page butt up to the left hand side and chose 'centre in browser' on the page properties tab. That way whoever looks will see a neat site in the centre of their browser. (To see the effect take a quick peek at mine).
    Hi Amanda,

    I just wanted to comment as to how beautiful your site looks and just to let you know how impressed I am. I'm one of the ones that took a peek!

    I'm a first time newbie with website building and certainly with this forum. Quite honestly I chose to go with VodaHost because I saw how nice and helpful people seem to be on this forum!

    By the way, I saw the way you have your signature curling like a real sig on your site. How do you do that?

    Meanwhile, thanks to you and everyone else on how to set the page guides!

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    PHP- is a blast!

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    Default Re: Setting Page Guides

    Quote Originally Posted by Lincslady
    Not so much a tip, more of a must do! ..especially if your a beginner like me, this has saved me more time and hard work than anything else.

    If you do this when you first open a page in BV web builder it will save you a lot of time consumming work later on.

    Step1. Open up page in BV web builder

    Step2. Go to Layout at the top of the page next to tools.

    Step3. Scroll down to guide settings.

    Step4. Tick box that says "show guide borders" theres also a grid, I use both.

    Step5. Set page width to 800 x600 tho the (600) length isnt that important.

    Step6. Click ok... your done

    Now when you look at your page you will see a dotted line around the area you need to work within.

    The dotted line at the bottom isnt so important as its better to have to scroll up and down rather than from side to side (sideways scroll)

    The dotted line to the right of your page is the one to look out for, keep all your work, Images, text, shapes, etc to the left or just on the dotted line. and you will never have a sidways scroll and always check your page width before saving

    Hope this helps you as it has helped me
    Hi Linda, Good tip, but surely designing for an 800 wide display is a little antiquated? In my experience stats show that more than 70% of users now have a screen setting of 1024 wide - on most of my sites I've used a Bravenet Hit Counter with Stats and these stats definitely show that the larger setting is the majority and certainly doing a search on this confirms it?

    Nice to see another UK user here on Bluevoda - What a great product?

    Brian

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    Default Re: Setting Page Guides

    Even if that 70% estimate is acccurate, that means you're shutting out three of every ten visitors to your site if you're building your pages with a width larger than 800.

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    Quote Originally Posted by racefan20
    Even if that 70% estimate is acccurate, that means you're shutting out three of every ten visitors to your site if you're building your pages with a width larger than 800.
    You're right, but the minority can always do a bit of horizontal scrolling, interesting scenario though?

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    Hi Dawnbreaker,

    Its really a matter of choice and wether you care enough about the people who visit your website to make it as easy and as pleasant an experience as you can .. I call it customer/client respect..... heres another scenario

    Say your having a BBQ and a few people coming are vegetarians.. do you cater for them or not? ....may take little extra effort but it wont compromise the party ;o)
    Click the link below for page guidelines (no more sideways scroll)

    http://www.vodahost.com/vodatalk/sho...eferrerid=5490

    How to Center your page
    http://www.vodahost.com/vodatalk/blu...tml#post124746





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    I have set over and over again the following www.mayatabasco.com/chiapas.html to 800
    width and in was centered but now it has a gap to the left and I cannot or do not know how to correct it. I always centered saved and published.

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    Quote Originally Posted by choco777
    I have set over and over again the following www.mayatabasco.com/chiapas.html to 800
    width and in was centered but now it has a gap to the left and I cannot or do not know how to correct it. I always centered saved and published.
    Choco, I think your problem is simply that you havent moved everything more over to the left ....and work inside your guidlelines if you have used them ..thats all :o)

    Thats why its best to set the guideline (a dotted line around your work area) if anything goes over that line on the right then you have the scroll effect...hope that helps :o)
    Click the link below for page guidelines (no more sideways scroll)

    http://www.vodahost.com/vodatalk/sho...eferrerid=5490

    How to Center your page
    http://www.vodahost.com/vodatalk/blu...tml#post124746





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    Quote Originally Posted by Lincslady
    Hi Dawnbreaker,

    Its really a matter of choice and wether you care enough about the people who visit your website to make it as easy and as pleasant an experience as you can .. I call it customer/client respect..... heres another scenario

    Say your having a BBQ and a few people coming are vegetarians.. do you cater for them or not? ....may take little extra effort but it wont compromise the party ;o)
    BBQ? Now there's an idea! I guess you're right and I will alter my 1024 habit forthwith.

    Can I ask what a nice lady from 'Bomber County' is doing in the Army? You should be wearing RAF blue - I don't like the colour of this uniform at all :)

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    I have set the page at 800x600 and actuall it is 760w.
    Maybe I should submit a ticket. Hate to cry over something so trivial,but........

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    Quote Originally Posted by dawnbreaker
    BBQ? Now there's an idea! I guess you're right and I will alter my 1024 habit forthwith.

    Can I ask what a nice lady from 'Bomber County' is doing in the Army? You should be wearing RAF blue - I don't like the colour of this uniform at all :)
    Lol ... oh i dont know I think the officers uniform is quite fetching :o)
    Click the link below for page guidelines (no more sideways scroll)

    http://www.vodahost.com/vodatalk/sho...eferrerid=5490

    How to Center your page
    http://www.vodahost.com/vodatalk/blu...tml#post124746





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    Quote Originally Posted by choco777
    I have set the page at 800x600 and actuall it is 760w.
    Maybe I should submit a ticket. Hate to cry over something so trivial,but........
    Awww dont cry choco :o)

    Did you set your guidelines?...ive just had a look at your site again choco and the only page that really needs doing is the chiapas page the one with the waterfall sound ..everything needs moving to the left ..then check your page width again ."centre in browser" then save
    Click the link below for page guidelines (no more sideways scroll)

    http://www.vodahost.com/vodatalk/sho...eferrerid=5490

    How to Center your page
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    Hi Amanda.
    I see your site and I must to say it is very beautiful and one of the thing that get my attention is your signature in the site maybe you can tell me how can I do this or from where I can download
    thanks
    Ilanit

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    Hi Linda - please have a look at my web site and tell me what I should do to improve the way the pages are - I have them set to 800, but some go over that. I guess they would all be better with the same width?
    Someone suggested that I should centre the pages - what about that?
    Thanks - in anticipation!
    Lorna www.lornamack.com

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    Hi Linda,

    Thanks for the tip!

    I was wondering, how do you make a sub-domain-sub-domain like yours?!?! You have www.vegegarden.lindasemporium.org or whatever! I want a www.computers.dwat.co.nz but all i can get is computers.dwat.co.nz, and this is sorta annoying. I know that the open-realestate application found under fantastico does it, but I could not find out how to do my own one.

    Please see if you can help me out, I would be very greatful.

    Have a good day.

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    Not sure what you mean here Daniel, they both look the same...I bought a domain name for all my info sites..my main site is lindashouseemporium i have .com,.net.and .co.uk..in that ....and then I bought another domain name for all my info sites...linshouseemporium.com...fe

    www.cars.linsemporium.com
    www.dating.linsemporium.com
    www.veggigarden.linsemporium.com

    If you put this question on another forum I could maybe help you more as we not supposed to go off topic ...we'll get our legs slapped lol
    Click the link below for page guidelines (no more sideways scroll)

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    How to Center your page
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    Ahaha yes i see! Ill have a whee while before needing to ask you agian so ill get back to you later.

    Thanks Linda!

    Daniel
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lincslady
    Thank you David.. i hope so...it did me
    Thank YOU!
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    Question Re: To start desighn website and publish.

    Greetings to Voda Lounge Forum,

    I am retired social worker in London England. I have just joined the forum with view to desighn my first web site. Please advise where to start from to desighn my first website. I have my community history in my saved documents which I want to publish on my intended website. Domain name for the site is also registered.

    Any help shall be most appreciated.

    God Bless U

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    Re: To start desighn website and publish.
    Greetings to Voda Lounge Forum,

    I am retired social worker in London England. I have just joined the forum with view to desighn my first web site. Please advise where to start from to desighn my first website. I have my community history in my saved documents which I want to publish on my intended website. Domain name for the site is also registered.

    Any help shall be most appreciated.

    God Bless U

    A.K. Khanani

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    The first thing you should do is sit down and write down the key elements you wish a website to do, to express, or to perform for you. This will determine the real design of your site....either it does what is intended, or it will become a wonderful exercise of technological folly!

    You already know the importance of a Business Plan, and so you should apply the same principle to online success as well.

    "Plan Your Work, Work Your Plan"

    Then, when you have a viable purpose for your website to fulfill, draw out the various "pages" that will become the "core Content" you will need to develop.

    Next, Download Blue Voda (VodaHost's Premier Website Builder Tool) FREE and familiarize yourself with the rich set of tools and features!
    You will be blown away!
    Following your download, you should immediately begin studying the video tutorials to learn how to use Blue Voda to maximum potential.

    You will be creating a website quicker than imagined.......and it will be a winner from the get-go based on the proper planning and logistical investment you made earlier!
    Good Luck!

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    Thank you!! I have a widescreen lap top that I have been working on my web site with and have been trying to find someone that could help me with this. Again Thanks a lot. You saved me a lot of time and trouble

    Tammy

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